Basic Momentum and Energy and time

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A bullet weighing 5.36 g and traveling at 681.8 m/s penetrates a tree trunk, requiring a force of approximately 32,871 N to stop it, calculated using the work-energy principle. The discussion then shifts to determining the time it takes for the bullet to stop, with a participant incorrectly applying a kinematic equation. Another user clarifies that the correct approach involves using Newton's second law to find acceleration and then calculating time based on the change in velocity. The conversation highlights the importance of using appropriate physics formulas and units in calculations. Overall, the thread emphasizes understanding momentum, energy, and the correct application of physics principles.
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Basic Momentum and Energy! and time!

1. A 5.36 g bullet moving at 681.8 m/s penetrates a tree trunk to a depth of 3.79 cm.
a) Use work and energy considerations to find the magnitude of the force that stops the
bullet.Answer in units of N.

for this i did 1/2mv^2=w=fd
so 1/2(.00536)(681.8)^2=w=fd
1245.801323=fd
1245.801323=f(.0379)
and i solved for f and got 32870.74731

2. (part 2 of 2) b) Assuming that the frictional force is constant, determine how much time elapses between the moment the bullet enters the tree and the moment the bullets stops moving.
Answer in units of s.

for this one i just did vf^2=vi^2+2at. is that correct??

THANK YOU!
 
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Hi Ronaldo21! :smile:

(try using the X2 and X2 tags just above the Reply box :wink:)
Ronaldo21 said:
… for this one i just did vf^2=vi^2+2at. is that correct??

No! That is not one of the standard constant acceleration equations.

(You're thinking of v2 = u2 + 2as)

Try again! :smile:
 


hmm. i don't get it :(
 


any help? I am just so confused!
 


You got the first one right. tiny tim was just pointing out that vf^2=vi^2+2at is a wrong formula. Why don't you use F=ma to find the acceleration and use a=(change in v)/time?
 


that'll just give me 32,870.74672 as an answer. it looks big.
 


It is big if it's in seconds. That's like about 9 hours. In fact, that's the same numerical answer you gave for the force. Why don't you show your intermediate steps and put units on your numbers so I've got some clue what you are talking about? You've already got that the force is 32871N. The mass is 5.36g. What's the acceleration?
 
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