Basis and dimension of the solution space

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The discussion revolves around finding a basis and the dimension of the solution space for a homogeneous system of equations involving four variables. Participants are analyzing the relationships between the variables as expressed in the equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the representation of the solution space and discuss the basis vectors derived from the equations. There is uncertainty regarding the correct identification of the basis for the solution space versus the row space, as well as the calculation of the dimension.

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Some participants have provided guidance on expressing the solution in vector form, while others have pointed out potential misunderstandings regarding the basis and dimension concepts. The discussion is ongoing, with different interpretations being explored.

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There is mention of uncertainty regarding the dimension calculation and confusion between the basis for the solution space and the row space. Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement and the equations provided.

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Homework Statement


Find (a) a basis for and (b) the dimension of the solution space of the homogeneous system of equations.

x - 2y + z = 0
y - z + w = 0
x - y + w = 0

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(a)
[1 -2 1 0] => [1 0 -1 2]
[0 1 -1 1] => [0 1 -1 1]
[1 -1 0 1] => [0 0 0 0]
basis = {<1,0,-1,2>, <0,1,-1,1>}

(b) for b i make
x = z - 2w
y = z - w

would i set w = s and z = t?
if so.
[x] = [ t - 2s] = [1] + [-2]
[y] = [ t - s] = t[1] + s[-1]
[z] = [ t ] = [1] + [0]
[w] = [ s ] = [0] + [1]

so the dimension would be the number of vectors
so dimension = 2?

im uncertain about that dimension part
 
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I didn't check your arithmetic, but assuming it is OK try writing your solution like this:

[tex]\left ( \begin{array}{c}x\\y\\z\\w\end{array}\right) =<br /> t\left ( \begin{array}{c}1\\1\\1\\0\end{array}\right)<br /> +s\left ( \begin{array}{c}-2\\-1\\0\\1\end{array}\right)[/tex]
and the answer should become apparent.
 
You found that the solution of the system is given by

[tex]\begin{bmatrix}x\\y\\z\\w\end{bmatrix} = t\begin{bmatrix}1\\1\\1\\0\end{bmatrix}+s\begin{bmatrix}-2\\-1\\0\\1\end{bmatrix}[/tex]

The vectors multiplying t and s are a basis for the solution space. Your answer to (a) is the basis for the row space of the matrix, not the solution space.

The dimension is just the number of vectors in the basis, so in this case, it's 2.
 
oh so for (a) i got it mixed up with the basis for the row space
the correct answer is { <1,1,1,0>, < -2,-1,0,1>}
 

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