Beam with uniform loading supported at 4 corners

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of a wood beam supported at four corners under a uniform load. Participants explore how to simplify the model for stress and loading analysis, considering the geometry and support conditions of the beam. The conversation includes technical aspects related to structural engineering and material properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on simplifying a four-corner supported beam to a two-end supported beam for analysis.
  • Another participant questions the configuration of the beam and whether it is a wide beam resting on two tubes at each end or if it is sandwiched between steel tubes.
  • A different participant suggests that if the beam is supported at all four corners, finite element method (FEM) analysis may be necessary due to potential stress concentration factors at the supports.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the definition of "beam" versus "plate" is crucial for determining the appropriate analysis method, depending on the dimensions of the structure.
  • The original poster provides detailed dimensions and specifications of the wood beam and its supports, clarifying that the wood beam is supported only at two sides along its length and seeks to calculate the maximum allowable load per square foot area.

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Participants express differing views on how to approach the analysis of the beam, with no consensus on the best method or simplification. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriate modeling technique and analysis method.

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Participants highlight the importance of understanding the geometry and support conditions, as well as the potential need for advanced analysis methods like FEM, which may not yield a straightforward closed-form solution.

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Hi
I have a wood beam (that has a width w , and a length L ) supported at 4 corners. A uniform load of wt lb/ft covers the entire top surface area of the beam. each corner has a structural tubing steel. when performing stress and loading analysis, how can I simplyfy the above to be a beam supported at two ends? is there any example or toturials that covers beams supported at 4 corners and the stress and loading analysis explained. ****this is not a homwwork problem ***
thanks
 
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nmk15 said:
Hi
I have a wood beam (that has a width w , and a length L ) supported at 4 corners. A uniform load of wt lb/ft covers the entire top surface area of the beam. each corner has a structural tubing steel. when performing stress and loading analysis, how can I simplyfy the above to be a beam supported at two ends? is there any example or toturials that covers beams supported at 4 corners and the stress and loading analysis explained. ****this is not a homwwork problem ***
thanks
I'm not sure what you mean by 4 corners. Is the beam 'sandwiched' at each end in between 2 steel tubes at the top and bottom faces of the beam, or is this a very wide beam (flat plate, like a sheet of plywood) that sits on 2 tubes at each end, on the near and far corners of each edge?
 
My understanding is that there are 4 cylindrical beams supporting the plate at all four corners. If so, then I really think you'll need to do some FEM on it, there will not be an accurate closed-form solution to this. Depending on the geometry, there will be stress concentration factors at the supports, and it would be difficult to model it as something simpler.
 
It sounds like the OP is actually a plate that is supported at each corner by a column.

The simplification will all depend on what the dimensions of the original "beam" are. The word "beam" takes on a very particular definition in mechanics of materials versus a plate.
 
sorry for the delay, I THOUGHT NO BODY WILL REPLY TO MY THREAD..
The wide wood beam consists of :
a wide sheet of wood 3/4 in thick with a length = 23 ft and width = 16 ft.
to bottom of this wood sheet, 27 (2 in by 12 in timber spaces 12 in apart) secured to it using wood screws.

steel beams :
I-beam: S 8X4 WITH WT PER FOOT = 23 LB
(A36 STEEL FY=36 KSI)
I-beam length = 23 ft
the I beam above is supported with one structural steel column tubing at both ends.

the square structural tubing: Fy=36 ksi and 12.02 Lb per foot
4in by 4in with 1/4in wall thickness.

the wood beam above is supported at only two sides, along the 23ft dimensions.
one i-beam and two structural tubing columns described above support the wood beam at the 23ft sides.
my goal is only to calculate : what is the maximum alloable load per square foot area.
 

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