Beauty of old electrical and measuring things, etc.

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The discussion centers on the appreciation and revival of old electrical devices and measuring instruments, highlighting their aesthetic and functional beauty. Participants share their experiences with vintage gadgets, including knob and tube wiring and various antique light fixtures. There is a focus on the craftsmanship of these items, with mentions of specific components like transformers and ceramic sockets. The conversation also touches on the nostalgia associated with these devices and the desire to preserve their history for future generations. Overall, the thread celebrates the charm and significance of vintage electrical equipment.
  • #501
gmax137 said:
A quick look at the Beseler website shows they sell mostly to schools; apparently film and wet chemistry is still a good path to learning.
My daughter took a photography class in High School (she graduated in "06), and they used film and wet chemistry. From that, she went on to be a photographer for the school paper.
 
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I've spent a good part of the day cleaning up a lot of the things I've shown. It's amazing how much grit and grim can build up on stuff. :oldcry:
 
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We have forgotten that dust sheets were once used to protect things.
A bed sheet is a low-cost investment to protect a static display from dust.
Dust sheets work well for machine tools and optical instruments.
If dust is critical to operation, use white sheets that will show the dust, then wash them regularly.
If it is just for a display, pick a nice pattern that will not show the dust.
 
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dlgoff said:
It's amazing how much grit and grim can build up on stuff.
Once restored, things don't stay restored by themselves. Yes, that can be frustrating.

Try living on a boat in salt water. Everything deteriorates rapidly, unless you constantly renew renew renew. Even then, after a while the crew deteriorates.
 
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anorlunda said:
Once restored, things don't stay restored by themselves. Yes, that can be frustrating.

Try living on a boat in salt water. Everything deteriorates rapidly, unless you constantly renew renew renew. Even then, after a while the crew deteriorates.
I'm learning. Glad my stuff isn't on your boat.
 
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dlgoff said:
I've spent a good part of the day cleaning up a lot of the things I've shown. It's amazing how much grit and grim can build up on stuff. :oldcry:
Well, I've managed to get the top shelf cleaned up.
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Now for the rest of the stuff. :doh:

Also, one of my neon sign transformers died so I waiting for one I bought on ebay.
 
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  • #507
What a classic collection! It reminds me of the Disney Flubber movies of the 1950’s with Fred MacMurray And his lab.
 
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  • #508
jedishrfu said:
Disney Flubber
I remember it like it was yesterday. Very cool, funny movie.
 
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dlgoff said:
Also, one of my neon sign transformers died so I waiting for one I bought on ebay.
I've received the so called modern "high voltage neon sign transformer", but it'll be a while before I get a chance to rewire the display which it lights up. Will post a photo when I get it done.
 
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dlgoff said:
I remember it like it was yesterday. Very cool, funny movie.
How can you not like Fred McMurray. The Absent Minded Professor
In the photo left of center is an glass sphere with a black box attached that looks suspiciously similar to my "plasma ball" from a later era. Said plasma sphere is a small tesla coil inside a low pressure He (maybe He-Ne) filled glass sphere which makes very nice coronal discharges. What is it?
I have one old piece of electronics: a 1921 Grebe AR-9 tabletop radio which I keep threatening to make workable (Type 201-A tubes), big barrel inductor and variable interleaved capacitor. It is amazing to look at.
 
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hutchphd said:
(Type 201-A tubes)
It's similar to this Raytheon B-H vacuum tube, which I tested and still works (it's a little dirty until I get a chance to clean it up). What I think is cool is the 4-pin vibration proof socket:

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hutchphd said:
glass sphere which makes very nice coronal discharges.
Yep.
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It's also cool how it induces these flicker bulbs to light.
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The one on the left is very old.
 
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Not electrical nor measuring, but still a beauty IMO.
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It needs a little work; a new nose cone and a few holes.
 
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Here's what the engine looks like. I'm not sure what the fuel is; will have to do some research.
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jedishrfu said:
Something like glow fuel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glow_fuel
Thank you Sir. That will help with me finding some. However I'm not sure I really want to try to start it. Might take off a finger. :(
 
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I saw some items on Amazon and there are some videos on YouTube to help. Here's the first one that popped up after a quick search.



You might be able to contact the channel owner about your specific plane too.

Fuel on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=model+airplane+fuel&ref=nb_sb_noss

I remember the fuel having a kind of sweet smell like a mix of kerosene and oil maybe? I figured to oil is needed for this type of engine.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Fuel on Amazon:
Thank You
 
  • #521
Here's a couple photos of one of my beauties, wood and onyx with no wires:
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Here's an old beauty I've had put back for a while and it actually measures something fairly fundamental.
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  • #523
Beautiful. My dad was a clock collector, and he had a couple that looked much like that. Who was the clockmaker?
 
  • #524
anorlunda said:
Beautiful. My dad was a clock collector, and he had a couple that looked much like that. Who was the clockmaker?
Only thing I can find is "Seth Thomas".
 
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Do you think it's rare or worth anything?
 
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dlgoff said:
@arnorlunda
Do you think it's rare or worth anything?
I'm not an expert on antiques or collectibles. But I think Seth Thomas is quality but not rare.
 
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anorlunda said:
I'm not an expert on antiques or collectibles. But I think Seth Thomas is quality but not rare.
Thank you. I did some google searching but couldn't find one like it.
 
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Here's another big beauty that's needing a lot of work (it does involve a little electricity):
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I got the old clock mounted with my other meters and gauges (which needs some glass cleaning).
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  • #530
Looks nice on that wall. Looks like you're running out of wall space, though! :smile:
 
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Is it running? .does it keep good time?
 
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anorlunda said:
Is it running? .does it keep good time?
The hands are in a different position compared to the previous pictures, so I'm assuming it is running. I want to know if it chimes every 15 minutes... :smile:
 
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berkeman said:
Looks nice on that wall. Looks like you're running out of wall space, though! :smile:
I am. Had to use one of my book shelf stands in my storm shelter for the radios in there. Now I've got stacks of books in the spare bedroom. :oldcry:
 
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anorlunda said:
Is it running? .does it keep good time?
It runs for a while then stops. I'm going to open the clock mechanisms and do a little cleaning, etc. It chimes okay if you manually set the hands.
 
  • #535
berkeman said:
I want to know if it chimes every 15 minutes...
No. Only on the hour. Thank goodness.
 
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dlgoff said:
It runs for a while then stops. I'm going to open the clock mechanisms and do a little cleaning, etc. It chimes okay if you manually set the hands.
The effective way to clean a clock works is in an ultrasonic bath. That would mean removing the works and finding someplace to send it off for cleaning. That may be more effort than you care to invest.

It is easy to overlook the time, trouble and expense that prior generations had to spend to keep their mechanical timepieces functional.

Edit: That reminds me of another thing I miss from my years on the boat. The ships clock, sounding up to 8 bells every watch became an important part of our lives.
 
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anorlunda said:
Is it running? .does it keep good time?
I've gotten it running great. It looses just about 30 seconds/hour; I'll shorten the pendulum length a little. There's a very fine thread screw built into the hanging mass:
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Once I got the hands in the right position for the chiming, it has chimed the correct number of time every hour.
 
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anorlunda said:
The effective way to clean a clock works is in an ultrasonic bath.
I have an heated ultrasonic cleaner that I use on my optical project; which had been neglected for a year or so, but I've already got it going without much cleaning. (See above post)
 
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dlgoff said:
I have an heated ultrasonic cleaner that I use on my optical project; which had been neglected for a year or so, but I've already got it going without much cleaning. (See above post)
Very cool. A while back, I was doing some research into mechanical wind up mantel clocks, and I finally learned from a youtube video the reasoning behind "don't apply too much oil to a clock". I just always thought it was to keep things neat and clean (pride in workmanship), and to avoid accumulating dust that might work its way into the bearing.

But it was explained that just the right amount of oil was enough so that the surface tension held the oil drop in place, clinging to the bearing. This kept it oiled for a reasonably long time. If you applied "too much", it would run out, break the surface tension, and you ended up with less oil in the bearing. So a little counterintuitive, but I think Mies van der Rohe would agree "Less is More".

Maybe this is common knowledge, but it was new to me.
 
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berkeman said:
Looks nice on that wall. Looks like you're running out of wall space, though! :smile:
I'm now out of space on this wall. Here is my last meter; Bendix microwave frequency meter:
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  • #542
My aunt and uncle collected stuff from auctions. When their house got full of stuff, they bought the house next door. When that house filled, they bought the house next to that. :oldlove:

BTW, I love that quote from Jim Hardy. He was the Mark Twain of his age.
 
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dlgoff said:
I'm now out of space on this wall. Here is my last meter; Bendix microwave frequency meter:
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I had to raise it up a little. Too much weight on the clock:
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anorlunda said:
BTW, I love that quote from Jim Hardy. He was the Mark Twain of his age.
He was indeed. I remember asking him if it were okay to use this quote and his name.
 
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  • #546
berkeman said:
I started to give you a warning for a political post, but then realized that it seems to apply to both political parties. So nevermind... :wink:
You know, I never thought about the rules about political post. Thanks @berkeman
 
  • #547
Here's a beauty that fits the title of this thread. I mounted on my meter and gauge wall:
It's a MODEL 3 Survey Meter made by Ludlum Measurements Inc.
The meters unit of measurement is Counts/Minute.

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My mentor Andy Anderson, W0AFQ, bought me an EICO Model 565 multi-meter kit so I could learn to solder. After putting it together, it didn't work, so Andy opened it and soldered all the cold joints. I did learn how to solder correctly; thanks Andy. The needle was broken into several pieces, so I tried to "glue" it back together. Here's a photo of it on my meter wall:

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  • #549
Here are some beauties. They're not electrical but are really old. Most came from Arkansas and some from Kansas.
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I'm going to use silicone sealant to attach them to the board.
 
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Here are the arrow heads after they were attached with silicone sealant:
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