Beginner question about special relativity

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The discussion revolves around a question related to special relativity, specifically concerning the relationship between two coordinate systems and the behavior of light in these systems. Participants are exploring the implications of an equation presented in a book regarding the transformation of coordinates and the constant M in the context of light traveling along the x-axis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the interpretation of the equation x - ct = M(x' - ct') and whether M must equal 1 when both sides equal zero.
  • Another participant asserts that a variable cannot be added to one side of an equation without also adding it to the other side, implying that M could take on values other than 1.
  • A repeated assertion from the first participant emphasizes that if both x - ct and x' - ct' equal zero, then M could indeed be any value, as the equation 0 = M(0) holds true for any M.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of M in the equation, with some suggesting it must be 1 while others argue that it can be any value. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of this equation.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the interpretation of the equation and the conditions under which M can vary. The discussion does not clarify the assumptions behind the transformation or the definitions of the variables involved.

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Saw this in a book last night. I hope I read it right and am remembering it right.

If two rectangular coordinate systems share the same x-axis and one is moving at a constant speed towards positive x and a beam of light is traveling along their x axes going towards the positive, then at the beam is at x=ct and x'=ct', one for each system.

The book says then x-ct=M(x'-ct') for some constant M.
What I don't get is doesn't x-ct=0=x'-ct' mean M is 1?

What am I not understanding about this?
 
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You can't add a variable to one side of an equation without adding it to both sides. A variable can end up being something other than one later on so that is why it is not done.
 
neginf said:
Saw this in a book last night. I hope I read it right and am remembering it right.

If two rectangular coordinate systems share the same x-axis and one is moving at a constant speed towards positive x and a beam of light is traveling along their x axes going towards the positive, then at the beam is at x=ct and x'=ct', one for each system.

The book says then x-ct=M(x'-ct') for some constant M.
What I don't get is doesn't x-ct=0=x'-ct' mean M is 1?

What am I not understanding about this?
Why do you limit the solution to M=1?

M can be any value and the equation is still true, isn't it?

0 = M(0) is true for any value of M, correct?
 
Thank you both. x-ct=x'-ct'=0 so x-ct=anything*(x'-ct').
 

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