Bernoulli's principle and work energy theorem

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Bernoulli's principle states that for an ideal, incompressible fluid in streamline flow, the sum of pressure, kinetic, and potential energy per unit volume remains constant. The discussion highlights the relationship between pressure, work done in different regions of a pipe, and the changes in gravitational and kinetic energy. There is a debate over the terminology used, specifically the term "pressure energy," with some participants arguing that it should simply be referred to as "pressure." The derivation of the work-energy theorem is affirmed, but clarity in terminology is emphasized. Overall, the conversation underscores the importance of precise language in discussing fluid dynamics principles.
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for a stream line flow of ideal liquid (non-viscous) imcompressible the sum of pressure energy per unit volume kinetic energy per unit volume , potential energy per unit volume remains constant
mathematically
P+1/2roV2+ROGH=constant
consider a fluid flowing in a pipe of various crossections
we consider 2 regions ,
at region 1 the workdone =P1V
workdone at region 2 =P2V
total workdone =P2V-P1V
= V(P1-P2)
Change in gravitational potential energy
U=ro×g×V(H2-H1)
the change in kinetic energy
= 1/2×ro×V(V2-V1)
where v1 and v2 are the speed of liquid
aplling work energy theorem
(P1-P2)V=ro×g(H2-H1) + 1/2ro(V2-V1)
P1+ro×gh1+1/2rov1=P2+ro×gh2+1/2rov2
that is P+ro×gh+1/2ro×v= constant
 
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There's nothing wrong with your derivation, but your statement is wrong. It's "pressure" not "pressure energy per unit volume".
 
Meron said:
There's nothing wrong with your derivation, but your statement is wrong. It's "pressure" not "pressure energy per unit volume".
i have stuyied that pressure energy it not only prssure
that is all the energies are constant at every point of the crossection
 
naman007 said:
i have stuyied that pressure energy it not only prssure
that is all the energies are constant at every point of the crossection

I've never heard of "pressure energy." Pressure is defined as force per unit of area -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure
 
ok ok i understand but ,it is the energy that the pressure exerts at every point of the fluid in a pipe that's why it is pressure energy per unit volume
 
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Mark44 said:
I've never heard of "pressure energy." Pressure is defined as force per unit of area -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure
It sounds wrong, but it is a common descriptor for the term:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pber.html
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It's probably just an attempt to find a less cumbersome label to the term than energy (work) arising from force and distance, per unit volume, so the force comes from pressure. Energy...from...pressure. Pressure energy. Or maybe it is less confusing that saying work per unit volume (similar to the other terms, kinetic energy per unit volume and potential energy per unit volume) when all you see in the equation is pressure. Either way, the descriptor is what it is so that people recognize where it came from:
f*d/v=p

If the other two terms are *something* energy per unit volume, then the "pressure" term must be too, otherwise they couldn't be in an equation together.

In any case, naman007, I'm not seeing a question anywhere in any of your posts...do you have one?
 
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Thanks russ
 
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