Binding energy of a nucleon virus an electron

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The discussion revolves around the binding energy of nucleons compared to that of electrons, specifically in the context of deuterium. The original poster attempts to calculate the ratio of binding energy per nucleon to binding energy per electron, raising questions about the strength of these bindings.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the conversion of binding energies and question the appropriateness of dividing by c^2. There is discussion about the units of energy and the implications of mass-energy equivalence.

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Some participants provide guidance on unit conversions and clarify misunderstandings regarding binding energy terminology. There is acknowledgment of differing interpretations regarding the strength of binding energies, but no explicit consensus is reached.

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Participants note the importance of adhering to definitions and units as presented in their text materials, highlighting constraints in understanding the problem context.

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The energy that binds an orbiting electron to the hydrogen nucleus is 13.4 eV. Calculate the ratio of the binding energy per nucleon to the binding energy per electron in deuterium. Which part is held more tightly, the electron or the neutron?

I already worked out the average binding energy per nucleon as 1.112 MeV/c^2 in the last question.

1 eV = 1.0*10^6 MeV/C^2 (as per Google), so wouldn't that make the binding energy of an electron much stronger than that of a neutron?

Do I have this mixed up?
 
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It's really mixed up. Why are you dividing energies by c^2? Are you trying to convert to a rest mass? And in any event, 1eV=10^(-6)MeV. The neutron is way stronger bound. Take a stress pill and try to relax.
 
Ah yes, ^(-6) makes all the difference in the world.

I have divided energies by c^2 because mass and energy are interchangeable as per E=mc^2. The average binding energy is either (kg), (u), or (MeV/c^2).

Using the revised equation, I conclude that the nucleon's average binding energy is approximately 83,000 times stronger than that of the the electron.

Does anyone agree, or disagree?
 
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Hard to argue with the numbers. BTW mass and energy are interchangeable - but they do have different units. It's a bit ungrammatical to call MeV/c^2 a 'binding energy'. It's a 'binding energy mass equivalent'.
 
I find it a bit unorthodox myself but I am trying to stay within the confines of my text material.

Thank you for your help.
 

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