Black Body Equations (more of a math prob)

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The discussion centers on the equivalence of two equations for energy flux radiated from a black body, one in terms of wavelength and the other in terms of frequency. The user initially struggles with the conversion between the two forms and the appearance of a negative sign during differentiation. The solution involves recognizing that the negative sign arises from the limits of integration when substituting variables, which can be resolved by flipping the limits to eliminate the negative. Clarification is provided that the modulus is not strictly necessary for the conversion. Overall, the mathematical conversion between the two equations is affirmed as correct.
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Hi,

In one of my textbooks, I'm given these two equivalent equations for energy flux radiated from a black body, one dependent on frequency, the other on wavelength:

I(\lambda)d\lambda = \frac {2c^2h}{\lambda^5} \frac {1}{e^{(hc/KT\lambda)}-1}d\lambda

and

I(\nu)d\nu = \frac {2h\nu^3}{c^2} \frac {1}{e^{(hv/KT)}-1}d\nu

Now, I'm just trying figure out how are these equations equivalent? At first, I thought it was simple substitution of the relation \lambda = \frac{c}{\nu}, but that doesn't work... so I realize that you have to convert units by differentiating say in this case lambda, and I get the same equations with the exception of a negative sign which I can't see how it cancels.

To be quite honest, I'm just not sure I'm doing the converting right. I'm not exactly sure how to handle the left side of the equation in this case.

Any suggestions or references would be great... Thanks!
 
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Excellent...I knew it was really elementary.
Thank you very much!
 
the negative sign is due to the limit of the integral
if the lower limit of your lamda is 0 and upper limit is infinite,ie.
\int_{0}^\infty I(\lambda) d \lambda

after you do the substitution, the lower limit of v will become infinite and the upper limit will be 0! ie,
-\int_{\infty}^0 I(v) dv

in order to make the integral looks nicer, we eat the negative sign and flip the limit of the integral:
\int_{0}^\infty I(v) dv

don't worry, your calculation is completely fine...

PS. the modulus is not a must... the web page just don't want to do this argument
 
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