Blackbody Radiation (Rayleigh-Jean) Equipartion of Energy Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the classical Rayleigh-Jean Law of blackbody radiation, specifically focusing on the assignment of equipartition energy per mode in the context of blackbody radiation and its relation to polarization and degrees of freedom in harmonic oscillators.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the equipartition energy is assigned as kT per mode instead of 1/2 kT, suggesting that this may relate to the treatment of polarization.
  • Another participant notes that the factor of 1/2 kT typically arises from additional degrees of freedom, aligning with the original participant's suggestion.
  • A different participant explains that each mode can be treated as a harmonic oscillator contributing 1/2 kT, with two polarizations for each wave-vector, thus justifying the factor of two in the energy assignment.
  • The original poster expresses satisfaction with the confirmation regarding polarization but raises a further question about the requirement for consistent polarization across the three components of the wave vector to avoid incorrect density of modes.
  • One participant challenges the notion that polarization is the correct answer, asserting that the degrees of freedom arise from both kinetic and potential energy contributions of the oscillator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the role of polarization in the equipartition energy assignment and the implications for the density of modes. There is no consensus on the precise reasoning behind the energy assignment or the treatment of polarization across wave vector components.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of polarization on the density of modes and the relationship between kinetic and potential contributions in the context of harmonic oscillators. The discussion remains open-ended without definitive resolutions.

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There's one thing that has always puzzled me about the derivation of the old classical Rayleigh-Jean Law of blackbody radiation. I understand how they calculate the density of modes in the cavity however I don't see why they assign an "equipartition" energy of kT per mode instead of 1/2 kT as is used for example in the kinetic theory of gases to find the heat capacity of gases.

I'm pretty sure the correct "equipartiion" is 1/2 kT per mode and my hunch is that in the blackbody radiation derivation they use kT to allow for independent vertical/horizontal polarizations, though I've never seen this explicitly stated. Or is it 1/2 kT for the E field and another 1/2 kT for the B field, can someone please enlighten me as to the precise reason.

Thanks. :)
 
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I don't know the answer to this specific question, though I will add that most likely when its a multiple of 1/2kT its due to another degree of freedom (as you have stated).
 
You treat each mode as a harmonic oscillator contributing (1/2)kT. Each mode can be labelled by its polarization and its wave-vector. The polarization takes two values for each value of the wave-vector--that's where the factor of two comes from. I.e., when you sum over modes in this case the sum over polarizations is trivial and just gives a factor of two.
 
So my hunch about polarization was correct. Thanks for confirming this guys.

One more question. Am I correct in thinking that the polarization must be the same for all three components of the wave vector. Otherwise you'd get a density of modes proportional to the 5th power of frequency instead of the correct result which is a 2nd power in freq {equiv to (-7)th power in Lambda instead of the correct (-4)th power of Lambda}. My electromagnetic is a bit rusty but I think it makes sense that all three components must have the same polarization - right?
 
polirization is the wrong answer. The degrees of freedom come from both the kinetic and the potential part of the oscillator with each part contributing one half.
 

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