Blackhole spaghettification and maximum body tension

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The discussion revolves around calculating how close an athlete, Celeste åפֿאל ۻ. .54, can approach a black hole without being torn apart by tidal forces. The maximum force holding her body together is approximately 500,000 Newtons, which must equal the difference in gravitational forces acting on her head and feet at a certain distance from the singularity. The participant struggles with determining the mass of the athlete, which is necessary for the calculations. A professor suggests that the exact mass is less critical since the calculation focuses on the difference in forces. The key takeaway is that understanding the gravitational forces and their differences is essential for solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


In the Schwarzschild Slalom, brave athletes dive from a platform orbiting at a distance of 1 AU from the singularity at the centre of a black hole with a mass of 10 MSun. The competitor who can get closest to the singularity, and survive, wins the event. (The rules state the athlete must point the length of her body toward the black hole at closest approach.) The winner in 20010 was (I mean, will be) Celeste åפֿאל ۻ. .54, whose height is 1.5 metres.

(a) If the force holding together the flesh, muscle and bones in the human body is about 500,000 Newtons†, how closely (in AU and km) could Celeste åפֿאל ۻ. .54 approach the singularity without being ripped apart by the tidal force? (In other words, at what distance from the black hole would the difference in gravity between the top of her head and the bottom of her feet just equal the force holding together her body?

Homework Equations


F = GmM/R2
RSch = 2GM/c2

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried setting the difference between the two gravitational forces at her head and feet equal to the maximum force that holds together the human body:

500 000 N = GmM/R2 - GmM/(R + 1.5)2

But the problem is that I don't know little m and I'm stuck about how to move forward.
 
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Little m in this case would be the mass of the athlete. If this is not given, you could make a reasonable assumption about what somebody weighs (or technically, how massive they are).
 
I can't make an assumption on the mass. I emailed my prof:

"Think of small masses at Celeste's feet and head and what would be the forces on them.

The difference in the forces is the same even if the points are not
attached. You're calculating a difference, so the exact masses you
use for m will not make a big difference to the answer. (No pun
intended.)"
 
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