Block on Wall Static Friction (Springs)

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The discussion revolves around measuring the static friction coefficient between a block and a vertical wall using a spring mechanism. The original poster describes a setup where a block is pressed against a wall by a spring, and they are attempting to calculate the coefficient of static friction based on the forces involved.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the static friction coefficient using the forces exerted by the spring and gravity. They express confusion regarding the role of the spring in the context of motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the calculations presented, with one participant correcting the original poster's interpretation of the forces involved. There is an acknowledgment of a mistake in the application of the force equations, leading to a more accurate understanding of the problem.

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The original poster's calculations are based on the forces acting on the block, specifically the force of gravity and the force exerted by the spring. There is a discussion about the direction of forces and their relevance to the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement


To measure the static friction coefficient between a 1.64-kg block and a vertical wall, the setup shown in the drawing below is used. (The dots are only there because spaces didn't work)
......|
......|W
SPRING----->(Block)|A
......|L
......|L
......|
A spring (spring constant = 500 N/m) is attached to the block. Someone pushes on the end of the spring in a direction perpendicular to the wall until the block does not slip downward. The spring is compressed by 0.0400 m. What is the coefficient of static friction?

K = 500n/m
m = 1.64kg
x = 0.0400m

Homework Equations



I know that the force by the spring pressing against the block is 20N since i used F =kx
I also know that the force of gravity is 16.1N

The Attempt at a Solution



I've attempted finding force by the spring on the block = 20N
Force of gravity = 16.1N
then subbing the two in.
Ff = µFn
20 = µ(16.1)
µ = 1.24

But that's not the right answer.
Doesn't it only matter with the forces in the direction of motion?
so since the block would be falling, how does the spring come into play?
I'm kind of confused
 
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Hi Hypnos_16! :smile:
Hypnos_16 said:
Ff = µFn
20 = µ(16.1)

erm :redface: … your numbers don't fit your letters :wink:
 
How do you mean?
The force of gravity is the only thing working in the y direction so Fn = Mg
And i figured the force of friction would be the force required to keep it from moving.
 
16.1 = µ(20) :wink:
 
You're joking me! wow. I feel like an idiot now...and yep, that's the right answer. Thanks man!
 

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