Blocks connected by rope on slope

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two blocks connected by a rope over a frictionless pulley, with one block hanging vertically and the other on a frictionless slope. The objective is to determine the tension in the rope and the acceleration of the blocks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the equations for tension and acceleration but expresses confusion regarding the sign convention used for the accelerations of the two blocks.
  • Some participants question the consistency of the sign convention and suggest clarifying the relationship between the accelerations of the two blocks.
  • There is a discussion about whether to redefine the accelerations as a1 and a2, with a suggestion that they should be oppositely directed.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's equations and reasoning. Some guidance has been provided regarding the sign convention and the relationship between the accelerations of the blocks. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the discussion is moving towards clarifying the setup.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's confusion stems from the chosen sign convention for the accelerations, which may lead to inconsistencies in their equations. The problem is framed within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific expectations on the setup and solution process.

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Homework Statement



I just want to confirm this.

A block m1=10 kg is hanging from a rope. the rope is attached by a frictionless pulley to a block m2=5 kg on a frictionless slope with a 40 degree angle from the ground.

Find the tension in the rope and the acceleration of the first block.

Homework Equations



So the tension is the same for both blocks, and so is the acceleration.

m1 * a=-m1 * g + T
m2 * a=-m2 *g sin(40) + T

The Attempt at a Solution



T = m1 * a + m1 * g
T= m2 * a + m2 *g sin(40)

m1 * a + m1 * g = m2 * a + m2 *g sin(40)
(m1 - m2) * a = m2 *g sin(40) - m1 * g

a = (m2 *g sin(40) - m1 * g) / (m1 - m2)
a = -13.3 m/s2

I'm not sure about the negative. Because I set up the problem so - for the first block is down and + is up. and - for the second block is downslope and + is upslope. But if a is the same for both blocks, then it doesn't make sense.

But did I do everything right?
 
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If the acceleration of m1 is down, then the acceleration of m2 must be up. Fix your equations accordingly. (With your sign convention, you can't call both accelerations 'a'.)
 
So would I do a1 and a2 with a1 = - a2 ?

Or do I have to do all the equations over again?
 
superdave said:
So would I do a1 and a2 with a1 = - a2 ?
That should work.

Or do I have to do all the equations over again?
Nope.

The trick I like to use is to guess the most likely direction and call it positive. Here I'd guess that m1 goes down, so I'd say that the acceleration of m1 was 'a' downward. And thus the acceleration of m2 is fixed to be 'a' up the incline. If you guess right, 'a' will turn out to be positive; if you guessed wrong, it will be negative. No worries.
 
Okay, thanks
 

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