Books on Combinatorics, Permutations and Probability

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks and resources on combinatorics, permutations, probability, and matrix algebra. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding various educational materials, aiming for intuitive explanations suitable for engineers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks textbooks for relearning combinatorics, permutations, probability, and matrix algebra, expressing a desire for intuitive explanations.
  • Another participant recommends Gilbert Strang's textbooks for matrix algebra, noting their accessibility and application focus, while cautioning that they may not be suitable for those without a basic understanding of the subject.
  • Some participants mention Sheldon Ross's book on probability and combinatorics, highlighting its solved problems and lack of measure theory, but also express confusion with its treatment of probability theory.
  • A participant suggests 'Probability: For the Enthusiastic Beginner' by David Morin, praising its examples and exercises, while another critiques Morin's book for being overly verbose.
  • Blitzstein's book is mentioned as offering intuitive explanations and interesting problems, with one participant noting their positive experience with the first edition.
  • Several participants discuss the availability of online lectures from MIT OpenCourseWare as supplementary resources for learning linear algebra and probability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the suitability of specific textbooks, with some favoring Strang and Ross while others seek alternatives. There is no consensus on a single best resource, and some participants report confusion with certain texts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate that a solid understanding of basic algebra may be necessary to grasp the material in recommended textbooks. Additionally, the discussion reflects a range of experiences with different educational resources, highlighting the subjective nature of learning preferences.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in relearning combinatorics, permutations, probability, and matrix algebra, particularly those with an engineering background seeking intuitive explanations and practical applications.

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Hello!

I am looking for textbooks to relearn Combinatorics, Permutations Combinations and Probability and also Matrix algebra( decomposition, etc). I had done these many years ago and the course/books provided to me at that time weren't that great. So I want to relearn this with a more intiutive explanation. I am an engineer and not a mathematician. Any pointers on courses or books on these topics?

Thanks and Regards!
 
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I think Strang has a couple of textbooks that do a good job at presenting matrix algebra with intuitive explanations. Used copies of old editions can often be found quite cheap, but if you have access to a library it is always best to browse and find what works for you. The text I'm most familiar with is
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0155510053/?tag=pfamazon01-20
When I was in graduate school studying electrical engineering I needed a linear algebra reference (the undergrad course I took used no textbook); I picked up a copy since it was commonly used by other students as well as faculty. If you have already seen basic matrix algebra before then it is not a difficult read. It does cover LU, QR and singular value decompositions, if those are what you are looking for.

EDIT: if you don't have a reasonable understanding of basic matrix algebra then this book may not be the most suitable for you. When it is used as a class text, it is often for a second course in linear algebra that focusses on applications, although it is sometimes used for a first course.

He also has a text "Introduction to Linear Algebra" that is used more often for truly introductory classes for folks that haven't necessarily seen any matrix algebra before, but I'm not very familiar with it.

Note that Strang is only good for the matrix algebra part. His coverage of the underlying theory of abstract vector spaces and linear transformations is somewhat shallow, although it is sufficiently deep to support the matrix algebra he covers.

jason
 
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Linear algebra by gilbert strang is a great book. Very appropriate for engineers too (has lots of applications). There are online lectures on MIT ocw (18.06).

For probability/combinatorics I really liked Sheldon Ross's book. Doesn't have any measure theory but has a lot of solved problems (some highly nontrivial!)
 
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jasonRF said:
I think Strang has a couple of textbooks that do a good job at presenting matrix algebra with intuitive explanations. Used copies of old editions can often be found quite cheap, but if you have access to a library it is always best to browse and find what works for you. The text I'm most familiar with is
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0155510053/?tag=pfamazon01-20
When I was in graduate school studying electrical engineering I needed a linear algebra reference (the undergrad course I took used no textbook); I picked up a copy since it was commonly used by other students as well as faculty. If you have already seen basic matrix algebra before then it is not a difficult read. It does cover LU, QR and singular value decompositions, if those are what you are looking for.

EDIT: if you don't have a reasonable understanding of basic matrix algebra then this book may not be the most suitable for you. When it is used as a class text, it is often for a second course in linear algebra that focusses on applications, although it is sometimes used for a first course.

He also has a text "Introduction to Linear Algebra" that is used more often for truly introductory classes for folks that haven't necessarily seen any matrix algebra before, but I'm not very familiar with it.

Note that Strang is only good for the matrix algebra part. His coverage of the underlying theory of abstract vector spaces and linear transformations is somewhat shallow, although it is sufficiently deep to support the matrix algebra he covers.

jason
Thank you I am reading strang now. It covers loads of the basics and is good
 
paralleltransport said:
Linear algebra by gilbert strang is a great book. Very appropriate for engineers too (has lots of applications). There are online lectures on MIT ocw (18.06).

For probability/combinatorics I really liked Sheldon Ross's book. Doesn't have any measure theory but has a lot of solved problems (some highly nontrivial!)
Thank you. i started Ross.. the first chapter is fine, it gives a lot of explanation.. but when you dive into probabibility theory and axioms, i think its getting a bit confusing for me.. I am reading the first course on probability
 
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I like https://www.amazon.com/dp/1138369918/?tag=pfamazon01-20 .

Blitzstein offers intuitive explanations, and some interesting problems. Gets you thinking in terms of probability. I own the first edition, and it was great. Never looked at the second edition.

I thought Morin's book was too chatty. Not a bad book, but the explanations can go on forever.
 
jasonRF said:
I think Strang has a couple of textbooks that do a good job at presenting matrix algebra with intuitive explanations. Used copies of old editions can often be found quite cheap, but if you have access to a library it is always best to browse and find what works for you. The text I'm most familiar with is
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0155510053/?tag=pfamazon01-20
When I was in graduate school studying electrical engineering I needed a linear algebra reference (the undergrad course I took used no textbook); I picked up a copy since it was commonly used by other students as well as faculty. If you have already seen basic matrix algebra before then it is not a difficult read. It does cover LU, QR and singular value decompositions, if those are what you are looking for.

EDIT: if you don't have a reasonable understanding of basic matrix algebra then this book may not be the most suitable for you. When it is used as a class text, it is often for a second course in linear algebra that focusses on applications, although it is sometimes used for a first course.

He also has a text "Introduction to Linear Algebra" that is used more often for truly introductory classes for folks that haven't necessarily seen any matrix algebra before, but I'm not very familiar with it.

Note that Strang is only good for the matrix algebra part. His coverage of the underlying theory of abstract vector spaces and linear transformations is somewhat shallow, although it is sufficiently deep to support the matrix algebra he covers.

jason
So is there any book other than Strang? I tried going through it but get lost pretty quickly
 
You may want to follow the online lectures here: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-06-linear-algebra-spring-2010/video-lectures/. If it's still too hard, you may need to review high school algebra.

Lecture 1 of this covers probability and axioms: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-041-probabilistic-systems-analysis-and-applied-probability-fall-2010/video-lectures/

It should be straightforward. Although I liked ross better, the problems are more fun. I learned probability by solving problems tbh, no having some deep understanding of axioms.
 

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