Both limits of integration change to zero.

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves integrating the function (1 + x²)^(1/2) over the interval from -π to π. Participants are exploring the implications of changing variables in definite integrals and the resulting limits of integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant attempts a substitution using x = tan(θ) but encounters an issue with the limits of integration resulting in both being zero. Others suggest alternative substitutions and discuss the correct approach to changing limits. There is a mention of the integrand being even as a potential simplification.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing different substitution methods and questioning the approach to changing limits. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the integrand and the importance of careful limit adjustments during variable substitution.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating common pitfalls associated with variable substitution in definite integrals, particularly regarding the direction of limit changes and the implications of the integrand's properties.

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Homework Statement



Integrate (1 + x2)1/2 from -∏ to ∏

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The Attempt at a Solution



I substiuted x = tan(theta) but when I went to change the limits of integration I got 0 and 0. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Better try x=\sinh u.
 
This is not the mistake though, the mistake is doing the change of limits in the wrong direction.
 
Oh so I should have changed the limits to arctan(pi) and arctan(-pi). I'm used to changing them for regular substitution when you can just plug the limits straight in instead of having to solve for x first.
 
cp255 said:

Homework Statement



Integrate (1 + x2)1/2 from -∏ to ∏

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I substiuted x = tan(theta) but when I went to change the limits of integration I got 0 and 0. What am I doing wrong?

Use the fact that the integrand is even, to get
\int_{-\pi}^{\pi} \sqrt{1+x^2} \, dx = 2 \int_0^{\pi} \sqrt{1+x^2} \, dx.
This type of issue comes up a lot when changing variables in defiinite integrals, so you need to be very aware of it.
 

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