Boy's Plumbing Woes: Ancient Roman Plumbing Was Better Than Mine

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Water hammer is a significant issue characterized by loud noises in plumbing systems, often described as sounding like a foghorn. This phenomenon can occur unexpectedly, particularly when using hot water, leading to frustrations such as reduced water flow. Solutions include installing hammer arresters, which are readily available at hardware stores, or even makeshift solutions like using an empty soda bottle as a temporary fix. The discussion also touches on the nature of water hammer as a pressure surge caused by sudden changes in fluid motion, with references to cavitation as a contributing factor. While water hammer can generate heat and energy, it is not currently a viable power source. Experiences shared include instances of severe water hammer in larger systems, highlighting the potential for significant noise and vibration.
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Boy do i have water hammer, it sounds like some huge fog horn and is enough to make one jump out of ones pants, it comes unexpectedly, and when i have a bath the hot water dries up to the kitchen sink, the Romans had better plumbing than mine.
 
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wolram said:
enough to make one jump out of ones pants
That sounds pretty handy. You should take it to the pub with you the next time you're horny.
 
You could just have a water-logged arrester as well.
 
If you don't have the cash to buy an arrestor try installing an empty 2 liter soda bottle inline. p.s. I totally made this up and have no idea if it would actually do anything at all.
 
A water hammer is actually an energy source. The action in the pipes gives off a lot of heat. i believe it is caused by some sort of cavitation. They do generate a lot of energy, however They are not a workable power source yet.

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-7127158/Put-wasted-power-from-water.html
 
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My kids call it "the pipe singer" and they all get real excited when it makes its noise. Tonight it went on for about 30 seconds.

Deja vu. Have I already told this one before?
 
Speaking of Deja vu, has there ever been a thread about that occurence?
 
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glondor wrote: they are not a workable power source yet.

probably not in house pipes, but controlled water hammer is what 'drives' hydraulic ram water pumps.
 
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glondor said:
A water hammer is actually an energy source. The action in the pipes gives off a lot of heat. i believe it is caused by some sort of cavitation. They do generate a lot of energy, however They are not a workable power source yet.

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-7127158/Put-wasted-power-from-water.html

Certainly a mechanism for the delver of energy, but not a "source."
 
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Water hammer (or, more generally, fluid hammer) is a pressure surge or wave resulting when a fluid in motion is forced to stop or change direction suddenly.
from Wikipedia - but it's reasonably accurate.

Cavitation may be an initiating factor, by virtue of the cavity (vapor phase) collapse and the rapid development of a wave along a pipe.

If there is a banging in hot water pipes, that could be a check valve abruptly closing or a steam bubble collapsing.

I've experience a rather large water hammer in 1.5 m pipe header at water production facility. A rather large check valve closed abruptly when the water pumps tripped off. The was a rather large bang and building shook and vibrated.
 
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Astronuc said:
from Wikipedia - but it's reasonably accurate.

Cavitation may be an initiating factor, by virtue of the cavity (vapor phase) collapse and the rapid development of a wave along a pipe.

If there is a banging in hot water pipes, that could be a check valve abruptly closing or a steam bubble collapsing.

I've experience a rather large water hammer in 1.5 m pipe header at water production facility. A rather large check valve closed abruptly when the water pumps tripped off. The was a rather large bang and building shook and vibrated.

I bet that made you jump, the boiler at work is good at making such noises, if it cuts out and has cooled the restart is quite scary, the first time i had to restart it i ran for cover.
 

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