News Breaking Down the 2016 POTUS Race Contenders & Issues

[phinds]

Screw opinions, here's a fact. We have gotten to this sorry state of affairs with Republican administrations and Republican Congress, Democratic administrations with Democratic Congress, Republican administrations and Democratic Congress, and Democratic administrations with Republican Congress. It doesn't take a physicist to see that the problem is Democrats and Republicans.

So what does THAT mean? Who do you think the Democrats and Republicans ARE?

To quote Pogo, "we have met the enemy and they are us".

 

[Hornbein]

So basically they are saying, "our candidate is a threat to the Constitution but we support him anyway". It really makes one wonder if these guys would ever draw the line anywhere. Even more perplexing [well, it should be] is his support from Evangelicals.

It's called "politics." Otherwise known as "saying one thing while doing another." It isn't physics.

Today Ryan implicitly invoked the conscience clause - the right of delegates to revoke the popular vote due to conscience.

To revoke the vote out of fear of losing their jobs, I'd say. A political party is a private organization for the purpose of pursuing the mutual self-interest of the members. The Federal government has no jurisdiction over their methods. I doubt that any state government does either. They can do whatever they want, as far as I know.

 

[Hornbein]

So what does THAT mean? Who do you think the Democrats and Republicans ARE?

To quote Pogo, "we have met the enemy and they are us".

Each party is under the control of a few (100?) people who do not invite scrutiny. By far the most important thing to enter such high ranks is fund-raising ability.

 

[jim hardy]

sorry for the late entry

The shooter was born in Indiana. Trump outright lied

did you mean New York ?
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ow-so-far-about-the-suspected-orlando-shooter

— Mateen, 29, was born in New York in 1986.

 

[mheslep]

sorry for the late entry
did you mean New York ?
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ow-so-far-about-the-suspected-orlando-shooter

In the released prepared remarks for that speech, the exact phrase was "was born to Afghan parents who immigrated to the United States." When the speech was actually given, the "to" became "an", as in "born an afghan".

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-addresses-terrorism-immigration-and-national-security

 

[Kevin McHugh]

So what does THAT mean? Who do you think the Democrats and Republicans ARE?

To quote Pogo, "we have met the enemy and they are us".

I think Reps and Dems are a cabal of corruptocrats. And your Pogo reference is spot on.

 

[gleem]

Trump hails Brexit as "great" and "fantastic". He has a similar plan for the US so I guess we get a little preview of a Trump administration and how it might affect the world order. Unfortunately we only have less than six months to see what might occur perhas too short a time to really see the full affect. Any isolationist policy as Trump embraces can only reduce our security and weaken our economy.

 

[jim hardy]

Any isolationist policy as Trump embraces can only reduce our security and weaken our economy.

Basis for that assertion ?

 

[gleem]

It would seem that a Trump isolationism would create political vacuums which would be filled by those who would like to see us twist slowly in the wind. The world would be quite different if the US did not get involve in WWI or if it decided to bring all the boys home after WWII as was very popular. We know the price of leadership but we have yet to experience the cost of isolationism. Last year 65M persons fled their homeland 1 out of 113 person across the globe according to the UNHCR the United Nations Refugee Agency and that number is up about 10% from 2014. While there are no great wars there is an unsettling unrest spreading around the world. Isolation is not a solution.

I don't think Trump's trying to brand the USA like he does his properties will fly with the rest of the world. The current economic climate of the world is certainly tentative especially with Brexit. If Trump where to pull a USexit changing our trading rules with other countries across the globe there would be so much anxiety in the markets I fear anything might happen. The world economic situation as it stands now is a bit precarious. I think you would see a large amount of money leaving this country. Trump must think the US is the only game on this planet.

 

[mheslep]

It would seem that a Trump isolationism would create political vacuums which would be filled by those who would like to see us twist slowly in the wind. The world would be quite different if the US did not get involve in WWI or if it decided to bring all the boys home after WWII as was very popular. We know the price of leadership but we have yet to experience the cost of isolationism. Last year 65M persons fled their homeland 1 out of 113 person across the globe according to the UNHCR the United Nations Refugee Agency and that number is up about 10% from 2014. While there are no great wars there is an unsettling unrest spreading around the world.

What do you mean by "yet to experience"? These massive refugee movements have occurred under Obama, caused by the rise of ISIS and the Syrian Civil war in which Russia intervened. So it is Obama's isolationism to which you object, if large waives of refugees with little US involvement define isolationism? You'd have the US invade Syria?

 

[Astronuc]

These massive refugee movements have occurred under Obama, caused by the rise of ISIS and the Syrian Civil war in which Russia intervened.

and under Bush before Obama.

The group originated as Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999, which pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda and participated in the Iraqi insurgency following the March 2003 invasion of Iraq by Western forces. Joining other Sunni insurgent groups to form the Mujahideen Shura Council, this group proclaimed the formation of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) in October 2006.

The precursors to Daesh started and evolved beginning with the Clinton administration, and flourished under Bush, particularly after the invasion of Iraq and the disruption of the social order in that nation. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was able to organize his caliph in a prison established by the US military during the Bush Administration.

Would anyone argue that US should occupy both Iraq and Syria? Or let some other nation intervene?

 

[mheslep]

and under Bush before Obama.

The precursors to Daesh started and evolved beginning with the Clinton administration, and flourished under Bush, particularly after the invasion of Iraq and the disruption of the social order in that nation. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was able to organize his caliph in a prison established by the US military during the Bush Administration.

Would anyone argue that US should occupy both Iraq and Syria? Or let some other nation intervene?

The massive refugee increase to which the prior poster referred, in defining the consequences of isolationism, did not begin until the Obama era.

The choice of precursors to Daesh in the 1990s is arbitrary, when al-Zarqawi adopted the name, like the date of a trade mark. Zarqawi and lieutenants were influenced by the Moslem Brotherhood out of Egypt, as was Bin Laden, and it's ideology of global jihadism going back to the 1920s and the fall of the Ottomans, and best articulated later by Q'tub. If "flourished" is to be gaged by cities held and populations controlled and the possession of large arsenals, and not by the unrealized plans of a guy in an Iraqi prison, then that didn't begin to occur for Daesh until 2011.

 

[jim hardy]

While there are no great wars there is an unsettling unrest spreading around the world. Isolation is not a solution.

Our capitol city is named for the president who advised against entangling foreign alliances
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/george-washington-isolationist/246453/

"Cultivate peace and harmony with all," Washington counseled. "Permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded... The nation which indulges towards another an habitual hatred, or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave."
...
Washington believed that with regard to foreign nations, it's best to trade freely and "have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop."

We've really brought peace to the mideast, eh ?

I think you would see a large amount of money leaving this country

http://buchanan.org/blog/the-isolationist-myth-165
All four presidents on Mt. Rushmore were protectionists. The greatest era of industrial expansion in America, where our workers saw the greatest rise in their standard of living was from 1860-1914, when America protected her industries and jobs behind a tariff wall. During that half century, U.S. exports rose 700 percent, while imports rose only 500 percent! By 1914, U.S. workers were earning 50 percent more that Brits, and more than twice what Germans and Frenchmen made.

No nation has ever risen to pre-eminence through free trade. Britain before 1848, America and Germany from 1865 to 1914, Japan from 1950 on, all practiced protectionism.

i didn't verify Buchanan's data , though,

 

[Dr Transport]

Let me poke this gorilla...if it hasn't been said, let me be the first, if not, I defer to the first person to suggest it.

If the Republicans were smart, they'd draft Condoleezza Rice for president, who better to run, an educated black female, if she didn't win, they could point to the Democrats and Liberals and call them hypocrites for not voting for the stereo-typed person they desperately want to be president.

 

[russ_watters]

Let me poke this gorilla...if it hasn't been said, let me be the first, if not, I defer to the first person to suggest it.

If the Republicans were smart, they'd draft Condoleezza Rice for president, who better to run, an educated black female, if she didn't win, they could point to the Democrats and Liberals and call them hypocrites for not voting for the stereo-typed person they desperately want to be president.

That would have been more useful advice about 6 months ago.

 

[Dr Transport]

That would have been more useful advice about 6 months ago.

I been saying it to my family for at least 6 months...I tend not to argue politics, not worth the fighting about it.

 

[Astronuc]

Conservative columnist George Will said Friday that he's leaving the GOP over Donald Trump's rise to becoming the party's standard bearer.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/prominent-conservative-columnist-says-hes-200253919.html

If only William Frank Buckley Jr. were still alive.

 

[phinds]

Conservative columnist George Will said Friday that he's leaving the GOP over Donald Trump's rise to becoming the party's standard bearer.

William Kristol may well follow him, based on what I've heard him say on talking-head TV and his failed attempt to get a viable conservative alternative to Trump. It's good to know the Republicans do still have some principled people, after Ryan turned spineless. Still, these talking head types are the elite that Trump's base hates so it's not going to slow him down any.

EDIT: oops. I see now that Kristol is vowing to keep up the good fight against Trump rather than quit the party.

 

[Evo]

Let me poke this gorilla...if it hasn't been said, let me be the first, if not, I defer to the first person to suggest it.

If the Republicans were smart, they'd draft Condoleezza Rice for president, who better to run, an educated black female, if she didn't win, they could point to the Democrats and Liberals and call them hypocrites for not voting for the stereo-typed person they desperately want to be president.

I would hate to think that people would be so stupid as to criticize people for not voting for someone just because they are a black woman.

 

[russ_watters]

I would hate to think that people would be so stupid as to criticize people for not voting for someone just because they are a black woman.

Really? You don't remember Obama's two elections?

 

[Evo]

Really? You don't remember Obama's two elections?

I don't think he was elected only because he was black and re-elected only because he was black, I guess that is what you are saying.

 

[OmCheeto]

I don't think he was elected only because he was black and re-elected only because he was black, I guess that is what you are saying.

Well, I'm pretty sure I started out, thinking; "The old white dudes have really messed things up recently. I think I'll vote for a black dude for a change".

But then, I decided that was a bit shallow, and did a bit of digging.

I posted my research of Obama's voting record on key bills last month in the "Why is anyone supporting Obama?"thread. He voted the same way I would have. He therefore represents my values. I will therefore vote for him, regardless of what he says. Because it's been my experience that in order to get elected, all successful politicians will say whatever they think you want to hear.

Hence, I never listen to any of them.

[ref: Feb 16, 2008, PF]

As always, Ok to delete, if I've gone off topic.

 

[Hornbein]

Let me poke this gorilla...if it hasn't been said, let me be the first, if not, I defer to the first person to suggest it.

If the Republicans were smart, they'd draft Condoleezza Rice for president, who better to run, an educated black female, if she didn't win, they could point to the Democrats and Liberals and call them hypocrites for not voting for the stereo-typed person they desperately want to be president.

Condi suffers from stage fright. She will never run for any office.

 

[Astronuc]

Many experienced GOP strategists unwilling to work for Trump
https://www.yahoo.com/news/help-trump-finds-few-willing-him-063121608--election.html

With Trump, Smith said, “I would feel like a mercenary. I can’t be away from my young children if it’s just for money.”

Ryan Williams, who worked on Mitt Romney’s presidential campaigns, said he’s happy working for a consulting firm, where he’s involved with various other elections across the country, as well as with corporate clients.

“When you sign up for a campaign, you’re putting your name on the effort. Some of the things that Trump has said publicly are very hard for people to get behind,” Williams said.

 

[Dr Transport]

I don't think he was elected only because he was black and re-elected only because he was black, I guess that is what you are saying.

If memory serves me correctly, the Democratic and Liberal establishment implied very heavily that if you didn't vote for Obama you were a racist...matter a fact, friend of mine pretty much told me that in polite conversation.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

If memory serves me correctly, the Democratic and Liberal establishment implied very heavily that if you didn't vote for Obama you were a racist...matter a fact, friend of mine pretty much told me that in polite conversation.

Yes, the same reason that Jesse Jackson got elected President...

I remember clearly the first time I saw Obama. He was on Meet the Press before he ran. I remember thinking "I want THIS guy to be President" but assumed it would never happen because he's black. I almost didn't support him because he's black - I didn't think he had a chance.

Late edit: ACK! Sitting here listening to the Republican pundits, and people like Jan Brewer, makes me crazy. They are trying to tell me that Trump didn't say what I heard with my own ears... a number of times. For example, "He's Mexican. I'm building a wall. He's Mexican. I'm building a wall.. He's Mexican. I'm building a wall" It doesn't get any more clear than that.

 

[OmCheeto]

Yes, the same reason that Jesse Jackson got elected President...

Did you forget about Shirley Chisholm? Not only were we racists, we were also misogynistic pigs!
hmmm... I would have been 13 in 1972. Not old enough to vote I guess.
Who did all the old people elect that year? (google, google, google)
Tricky Dick...

I remember clearly the first time I saw Obama. He was on Meet the Press before he ran. I remember thinking "I want THIS guy to be President" but assumed it would never happen because he's black. I almost didn't support him because he's black - I didn't think he had a chance.

I didn't think he had a chance either.
About the only thing I don't like about him, has been his misuse of military drones.
I always thought he should have directed them toward Congress.

 

[jim hardy]

I always thought he should have directed them toward Congress.

When either party calls asking for money i tell them
"You guys gave Hank Paulson half a billion bucks tax free. Then you bailed out his Wall Street buddies for him .They can darn well cover my tab. "

Of course Paulson supports Hillary. Goldman owns her.
http://www.businessinsider.com/hill...king-fees-cnn-town-hall-bernie-sanders-2016-2

During a CNN town-hall event Wednesday night, moderator Anderson Cooper asked Clinton whether she had used poor judgment by accepting $675,000 from Goldman Sachs for three speeches. The Democratic presidential front-runner said she was simply following the footsteps of past secretaries of state.

"I don’t know. That's what they offered," she said. "Every secretary of state that I know has done that."

Small wonder they're all campaigning against Trump. Trump would have told them to file bankruptcy.. And prosecuted them for selling fraudulent securities.

old jim

 

[OmCheeto]

When either party calls asking for money i tell them
"You guys gave Hank Paulson...

skreeeeeech!

Hank? The bigger problem, IMHO, is with a system that made his namesake brother John, TEN BILLION DOLLARS!

hmmm...

Anyone know which of the candidates is in favor of Wall Street gambling/market manipulation reform? I might vote for Trump, if he is.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Wow, George Will has left the Republican Party.

Washington (CNN)George Will, the conservative commentator and columnist, said Sunday that he changed his voter registration to "unaffiliated" 23 days ago and has left the Republican Party because of Donald Trump.

"After Trump went after the 'Mexican' judge from northern Indiana then (House Speaker) Paul Ryan endorsed him, I decided that in fact this was not my party anymore," Will said on "Fox News Sunday."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politics/george-will-donald-trump-leaving-republican-party-election/

 

[jim hardy]

skreeeeeech!

good luck finding impartial reporting.

i know you'll be researching.
i started here
https://www.bing.com/search?q=trump...id=842E7D665EC740328ECC9644C832D38B&FORM=QBRE

He stiffed them back in the 90's
from 12th link down on my search
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/business/dealbook/donald-trump-relationship-bankers.html

Mr. Trump’s complicated history with Wall Street goes back to the early 1990s, when three of his casinos ran into financial trouble; the Trump Taj Mahal filed for bankruptcy. Creditors often ended up with pennies on the dollar, and the failures soured Mr. Trump’s relationship with a number of banks.

 

[OmCheeto]

Wow, George Will has left the Republican Party.http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politics/george-will-donald-trump-leaving-republican-party-election/

Interesting. I was only 5 in 1964, but Barry Goldwater always struck me as a really smart person. Had I been older, it's quite possible I would have been a lifelong member of the Republican party. (George was 23 that year)

He said he'd joined the Republican Party in 1964, inspired by Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater, a founder of the conservative movement and a key figure in the party then.
"I joined it because I was a conservative, and I leave it for the same reason: I'm a conservative," Will said.
"The long and the short of it is, as Ronald Reagan said when he changed his registration, 'I did not leave the Democratic Party; the Democratic Party left me,' " he said.

ps. Astro mentioned Will leaving the party, yesterday.

 

[jim hardy]

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/05/george_will_takes_on_edmund_burke.html

[Edmund Burke's] advice was not to pay much attention to screaming headlines, but to put your trust in the intuitive good sense of the people.

Because half a dozen grasshoppers under a fern make the field ring with their importunate cool person, whilst thousands of great cattle, reposed beneath the shadow of the British oak, chew the cud and are silent, pray do not imagine that those who make the noise are the only inhabitants of the field.

Trump is a practical man. George Will is a classic intellectual. They don't need to fight each other, because a viable world needs both kinds of people.

But maybe it's time for conservative intellectuals to stop sulking and get with the program.

 

[russ_watters]

I don't think he was elected only because he was black and re-elected only because he was black, I guess that is what you are saying.

This:

If memory serves me correctly, the Democratic and Liberal establishment implied very heavily that if you didn't vote for Obama you were a racist...matter a fact, friend of mine pretty much told me that in polite conversation.

 

[Evo]

This:

Well, I certainly never got the message, I would guess others didn't either. Got anything to back that up? Or is that just hearsay?

 

[russ_watters]

Well, I certainly never got the message, I would guess others didn't either. Got anything to back that up? Or is that just hearsay?

Sure:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/hate-obama-why.241143
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-birther-movement-racist-total-crap.493820/
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/me-governor-says-obama-hates-white-people.706391/

You participated actively in that last one (the title of which suggests anyone responds with an answer "hates" Obama -- I reworded it in my response). I'll quote a post of mine:

And why the coddling of Obama? Don't you remember what it was like when Bush was President? It wasn't that long ago. Last week, CNN showed a scathing editorial of how despicable it was for a rodeo clown to wear an Obama mask:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/15/opinion/quest-rodeo-clown

Do people not remember Bush being portrayed as a monkey?
https://www.google.com/search?q=bus...xC8aAygHU8ID4DA&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1267&bih=655

I suppose since Bush is white it is ok, since if he was black that would be racist.

Yes, it was a pretty standard/widespread argument to suggest that people who dislike Obama are racists.
[edit]
Here's a new article, looking back and saying the same thing: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-nelson/race-and-racism-in-the-ti_b_9285156.html

Here's a good one:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2008/08/if_obama_loses.html
The title is "Racism is the only Reason Obama Might Lose"
That brings a memory back: I remember having conversations, mostly here, about how awesome Obama is and how obvious of a choice he was. Some people simply couldn't fathom a non-racism based reason why someone would vote against him.

 

[Evo]

Yes, it was a pretty standard/widespread argument to suggest that people who dislike Obama are racists.

If someone disparages Obama because he's black you might be a racist is not the same as "if you don't vote for Obama you are a racist".

 

[mheslep]

Conservative columnist George Will said Friday that he's leaving the GOP over Donald Trump's rise to becoming the party's standard bearer.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/prominent-conservative-columnist-says-hes-200253919.html

If only William Frank Buckley Jr. were still alive.

"Will suggested that a Democratic victory in the presidential election in November would be preferable..."

Before WFB passed he stated he didn't like Trump. But for WFB to say a Democratic victory preferable? And with this particular Democrat? No chance.

I like to read Will occasionally. But as others have said, Trump is a brawler and Will is none the less the guy who wears a bow tie and glasses in the school yard. We know how this is going to end.

 

[mheslep]

William Kristol may well follow him, based on what I've heard him say on talking-head TV and his failed attempt to get a viable conservative alternative to Trump. It's good to know the Republicans do still have some principled people, after Ryan turned spineless. Still, these talking head types are the elite that Trump's base hates so it's not going to slow him down any.

EDIT: oops. I see now that Kristol is vowing to keep up the good fight against Trump rather than quit the party.

Where are the principles among the Democrats, who have nominated the Hero of Bosnia, Hillary Clinton?

 

[russ_watters]

If someone disparages Obama because he's black you might be a racist is not the same as "if you don't vote for Obama you are a racist".

Agreed! So...I'm not sure you were following how we got here... The premise was that if Republicans nominated Condi and she lost, they could use the "you didn't vote for her because you are racist" stick to beat Democrats with -- just like they did with people who didn't vote for Obama.

Note, the "because he's black" thing isn't part of it. The connection has been made even in the absence of racial content to the objections.

I added some to the previous post while you were replying. The last was a direct statement on the issue. Democrats believed that Obama was so far superior to McCain that they couldn't fathom a non-racism based reason for supporting McCain instead.

 

[Evo]

Agreed! So...I'm not sure you were following how we got here... The premise was that if Republicans nominated Condi and she lost, they could use the "you didn't vote for her because you are racist" stick to beat Democrats with -- just like they did with people who didn't vote for Obama.

Note, the "because he's black" thing isn't part of it. The connection has been made even in the absence of racial content to the objections.

I added some to the previous post while you were replying. The last was a direct statement on the issue. Democrats believed that Obama was so far superior to McCain that they couldn't fathom a non-racism based reason for supporting McCain instead.

Ok, you win, my dog is having seizures due to the weather, so I can't do this.

 

[russ_watters]

...my dog is having seizures due to the weather, so I can't do this.

Oy, sorry to hear that!

 

[mheslep]

Here's a good one:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2008/08/if_obama_loses.html
The title is "Racism is the only Reason Obama Might Lose"
...

Well that last one's not fair; Slate is the official publication for the delusional. They might just as well have said "Alien Body Snatchers are the only reason...", in fact probably did so on the first draft only to find "alien" was not allowed by the Slate style guide.

 

[Astronuc]

The House Benghazi Committee has released its findings on the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Libya.
http://www.npr.org/2016/06/28/48383...lts-military-response-to-2012-attack-in-Libya

In a statement, the chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi, Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., said the panel conducted its investigation "in a manner worthy of the American people's respect" and urged Americans to read the report.

Two other Republicans on the panel, Jim Jordan of Ohio and Mike Pompeo of Kansas, released their own "additional views," saying then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "paid special attention to Libya," but that she "missed her last, clear chance to protect her people."

http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo

 

[OmCheeto]

The House Benghazi Committee has released its findings on the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Libya.
http://www.npr.org/2016/06/28/48383...lts-military-response-to-2012-attack-in-Libya

http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo

pfft!

“Now, I simply ask the American people to read this report for themselves, look at the evidence we have collected, and reach their own conclusions. You can read this report in less time than our fellow citizens were taking fire and fighting for their lives on the rooftops and in the streets of Benghazi.”

The committee’s proposed report is just over 800 pages long...

Simply asking 300,000,000+* people to read an 800 page long report?
I couldn't even make it through the 1 page website.
And it's my humble opinion, that most Americans can't tolerate reading more than a 10 word meme.

This kind of reminds me of when my sister-in-law came back from Washington DC, a couple of decades ago, and said how sad she was, to view all of the 50,000 names on the wall of the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial. Having just recently watched "Mindwalk", I made the mistake of becoming "Dougy Downer", and asked her if she knew that that many children die every day, around the world.

Benghazi, is a little sorrow, in the big scheme of things, IMHO.

The NPR article kind of sums up, as to why I won't even open the 800 page long report; "The most damaging aspect of the investigation for Clinton may have been the discovery that she used a private email server while she was secretary of state".

woo.

ps. I've only read one of the "longest novels" on wiki's list: Atlas Shrugged. 1088 pages. And it took me days to finish.

*Ok. That may be a bit exaggerated. I'm sure not all of us are old enough to read.

 

[mheslep]

...Benghazi, is a little sorrow, in the big scheme of things, IMHO.

The NPR article kind of sums up, as to why ...

Mission accomplished National Public Radio

 

[OmCheeto]

Mission accomplished National Public Radio

hmmm...

What did Fox News have to say about it?
(google, google, google)

SHEPARD SMITH (HOST, [Fox News]): The House committee investigating the deadly terror attack in Benghazi today released its report. After a two-year, $7 million investigation the eighth investigation to date, the authors of the report make no new accusations and provide no new evidence of wrongdoing against the former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

[Ref: From the June 28 edition of Fox News’ Shepard Smith Reporting]

Thank you, Fox News, for also confirming that reading the 800 page report, would be a waste of my time.

hmmm... $8,750 per page seems pretty sweet. Perhaps I should go into the "report writing" business.

 

[Dotini]

White House Watch: Trump 43%, Clinton 39%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
The tables have turned in this week’s White House Watch. After trailing Hillary Clinton by five points for the prior two weeks, Donald Trump has now taken a four-point lead.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds Trump with 43% of the vote, while Clinton earns 39%. Twelve percent (12%) still like another candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Last week at this time, it was Clinton 44%, Trump 39%. This is http://www.rasmussenreports.com/platinum/historical_data/clinton_trump_matchup_trends since last October. His support has been hovering around the 40% mark since April, but it remains to be seen whether he’s just having a good week or this actually represents a real move forward among voters.

Trump now earns 75% support among his fellow Republicans and picks up 14% of the Democratic vote. Seventy-six percent (76%) of Democrats like Clinton, as do 10% of GOP voters. Both candidates face a sizable number of potential defections because of unhappiness with them in their own parties.

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Clinton appears to have emerged relatively unscathed from the release this week of the House Select Committee on Benghazi’s report on her actions as secretary of State in connection with the murder of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans by Islamic terrorists in September 2012. Rasmussen Reports will be releasing new numbers on Clinton and Benghazi at 10:30 a.m. Eastern today.

Trump made a major speech on jobs and trade on Tuesday that even the New York Times characterized as “perhaps the most forceful case he has made for the crux of his candidacy …. that the days of globalism have passed and that a new approach is necessary.” Some also speculate that last week’s vote in Great Britain to leave the European Union signals a rise of economic nationalism that is good for Trump. Despite the media panic and market swings that have resulted, Americans are not particularly worried that the “Brexit” will hurt them in the pocketbook.

The latest terrorist carnage - this week in Istanbul, Turkey - also may be helping Trump who is arguing for a harsher response to radical Islam than Clinton. Voters remain lukewarm about President Obama's national security policies and expect more of the same if Clinton moves back into the White House next January. Trump, if elected, will definitely change things, voters say, but not necessarily for the best.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Rasmussen is the outlier. Everyone else has the numbers reversed, with ABC showing Clinton leading by 12 points. The RCP average has Clinton up by 4.8. Even Fox has her up by over 4 points.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

That she isn't leading by 20 points is terrifying. And I don't even like Clinton!

 

[mheslep]

White House Watch: Trump 43%, Clinton 39%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
The tables have turned in this week’s White House Watch. After trailing Hillary Clinton by five points for the prior two weeks, Donald Trump has now taken a four-point lead.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds Trump...

Yes, Rasmussen is polling likely voters while the other polls promote registered voters surveys. Rasmussen's numbers are also more recent, 28-29 June.