Build a 600ft Spring Launcher: Ideas & Advice

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of building a spring launcher capable of launching a small projectile, such as a tennis ball or baseball, to a distance of 600 feet. Participants explore various mechanical and alternative approaches to achieve this goal, considering both theoretical and practical aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the feasibility of launching a tennis ball 600 feet and suggests considering alternative methods, such as a pressure vessel or a trebuchet, while noting the challenges due to the ball's light weight.
  • Another participant provides the formula for the energy stored in a compressed spring and relates it to the potential energy needed for the projectile, indicating the need for careful calculations and safety considerations.
  • A different participant calculates the required launch velocities for both a tennis ball and a baseball to reach 600 feet, factoring in atmospheric drag and providing a numerical integration program for simulation.
  • One participant humorously references the use of spud guns and similar devices, suggesting that while 600 feet may be ambitious for a tennis ball, it has been achieved in some contexts, and offers unconventional construction ideas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the feasibility of launching a tennis ball 600 feet, with some suggesting alternative methods and others focusing on mechanical solutions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach and the practicality of achieving the stated distance.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions, such as the need for high pressure in alternative launch methods and the impact of atmospheric drag on projectile motion. There are also concerns about safety when using high-pressure systems or unconventional launchers.

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Do you guys think it is possible to build a spring launcher that launches a small projectile like a tennis ball or baseball like 600 feet...If it is, what kind of spring would one use.

Or maybe a different launcher approach would be better. LET Me Know
 
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600 feet...Up, downrange, what?

600 feet for a tennis ball is quite a ways. Does it have to be mechanical? You could try a pressure vessel, but I wouldn't recommend it if you have to prior experience with them. To launch a tennis ball 600 feet you'll need some high pressure, and that can be very dangerous.

You could build a large trebuchet, but the problem is that your tennis ball is pretty light and won't really get a great deal of momentum. (maybe a baseball...)
 
The energy stored in a compressed spring is:

U = 1/2 * k *x^2

k = spring constant
x = spring displacement from rest.

You could equate this to the potential energy of the tennis ball:

PE = m g h
m = mass of tennis ball
h = 600 ft

And you could find combinations of k & x and see if they are available.

Be carefull if you actually do this - it could be dangerous !
 
Due to atmospheric air drag, it would require about 1000 meters per second vertical launch velocity for a tennis ball to reach 600 feet elevation. The drag coefficient for turbulent drag is about 0.6 due to the fuzz.. For a baseball (hardball), about 130 meters per second is adequate. I had to use numerical integration as follows:

PROGRAM launchtennisball
REM vertical launch
OPTION NOLET
g=9.81 ! gravity
m=0.057 ! mass in kg
d=0.065 ! diameter in meters
C=0.6 ! drag coedfficient
dens=1.2 ! density of air in kg per m^3
v0=100 ! vertical launch velocity in meters per sec
CALL launch(v0,g,m,d,C,dens,ymax,t)
PRINT ymax,t
END

SUB launch(v0,g,m,d,C,dens,ymax,t)
v=v0
t=0
dt=0.001
A=pi*d^2/4
y=0
ymax=0
DO
t=t+dt
dv=(0.5*dens*C*A*v^2/m)*dt+g*dt
v=v-dv
y=y+v*dt
LOOP until v<0
ymax=y
END SUB

Bob S
 
LOL! I must say that college kids are probably a bit saner than we used to be. . . .

Google "spud gun" or "potato gun" or "beer can cannon". 600 ft might be a bit far for something as light in sectional density as a tennis ball, but. . . it HAS been done! :-) "Iron City" beer cans (steel with rolled rims) made for good barrel material but you could use tennis ball cans. Add on a healthy layer of fiber tape to make up for the lack of barrel strength. Add lighter fluid (naptha) a tennis ball and fire away! LOL! Recommendation: Tape the barrel to a stick of wood and you have a regular "hand cannone" of the 12th century variety! :-)
 

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