Build a DC Voltage Regulator for 320 Amp Alternator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around building a variable voltage regulator for a 320 Amp Leece Neville alternator, intended for use in a vehicle to power amplifiers. Participants explore various aspects of the design, including voltage requirements, circuit schematics, and the implications of high current handling.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks schematics for a voltage regulator that can control output voltage from a 320 Amp alternator, specifically for powering amplifiers that require up to 20VDC.
  • Another participant corrects the original poster's description of the battery configuration, noting that the two 8V batteries are in series to achieve 16V, not parallel.
  • Some participants discuss the challenges of building a regulator capable of handling high currents, suggesting the use of parallel power BJTs with series resistors to balance current distribution.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the original poster's amplifier setup, questioning the power levels and the implications for the regulator's design.
  • There is mention of a related thread that may provide additional insights or schematics.
  • One participant shares a Wikipedia link on voltage regulators for background information, highlighting the bipolar follower arrangement as a potential solution.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for adequate heat dissipation in the regulator design due to the high power levels involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and expertise regarding the construction of the voltage regulator, with some providing technical insights while others seek clarification. There is no consensus on the specific design or approach to take, and multiple viewpoints regarding the requirements and challenges remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the power dissipation requirements and the potential need for heat sinks and fans in the regulator design. There are also unresolved questions regarding the original poster's amplifier specifications and their implications for the regulator's functionality.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electronics, particularly those working with high-power applications, voltage regulation, or automotive electrical systems may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello all,

I am looking to build a small varible voltage regulator that I can control from the inside my vehichle, that will allow me to control the voltage of my 320 Amp Leece Neville stand alone alternator... Currently I use this alternator to power my amplifiers that will handle up to 20VDC. I also have paralleld (2) 8 volt batteries to make the equipment run on 16VDC instead of 13.8... Does anyone have simple schematics on this?

Any help or any suggestions will be appreciated...
 
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First, you have series'ed th two 8V batteries to make 16V, not parallel'ed.

Your requirements are for Vo = 20Vdc max to some Vmin, at 320 Amps?
 
Xhunter, do you have any eardrums left?
 
Danger said:
Xhunter, do you have any eardrums left?

I think berkeman knew what I ment...

I just want to some input on building a voltage regulator...
If you guys can't help me that's ok...

I currently build 10 meter amplifiers and Big DC unregulated power supplies from 50Amp up to 400Amp, so I would think that this regulator would also be quite simple to build for a beginer like myself...

thanks
 
I can't help you; I don't know anything about electronics, but that was a serious question (badly worded, perhaps). There have been a lot of official warnings up here about kids going deaf in those rolling boom-boxes. Just how many decibels are you pushing there, anyhow?
 
Danger said:
I can't help you; I don't know anything about electronics, but that was a serious question (badly worded, perhaps). There have been a lot of official warnings up here about kids going deaf in those rolling boom-boxes. Just how many decibels are you pushing there, anyhow?

Im not running class D amplifiers, I am running class C amplifiers with close to 10KW (pep)...
 
xhunter911 said:
I just want to some input on building a voltage regulator...
If you guys can't help me that's ok...

I currently build 10 meter amplifiers and Big DC unregulated power supplies from 50Amp up to 400Amp, so I would think that this regulator would also be quite simple to build for a beginer like myself...
10m amplifiers...you a HAM? Good stuff! A voltage regulator in the power range you are talking about is just like a follower amp, with the input being the desired output voltage (plus a diode drop). You can parallel up several power BJTs to supply all that current, and each emitter has a small series resistor to help balance out the output currents and prevent current bunching in one runaway BJT. Does that make sense?
 
Oh, okay... that makes more sense. I thought that you were driving a sonic weapon around.
 
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berkeman said:
10m amplifiers...you a HAM? Good stuff! A voltage regulator in the power range you are talking about is just like a follower amp, with the input being the desired output voltage (plus a diode drop). You can parallel up several power BJTs to supply all that current, and each emitter has a small series resistor to help balance out the output currents and prevent current bunching in one runaway BJT. Does that make sense?

I am a Ham, and I also sometimes fool around on 11Meters too... I understand what you are saying, but without a visual I get lost...
I am truly sorry for my stupid questions, but I have to learn more somehow, and why not from the masters... Here are a few of my projects that I have completed...

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  • #11
Your questions are not stupid, and your project pictures are very nice. Here's the wikipedia article on voltage regulators for background info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_regulator

The bipolar follower arrangement that I mentioned is shown in the Linear Regulator part of that article, about half-way down the page. They show it with just one NPN BJT (bipolar junction transistor), but you can parallel up multiple BJTs to increase the output current capability, as long as you put a series emitter resistor in with each of the BJTs. The Re should be sized to give you about 0.1V voltage drop at full current.
 
  • #12
I think I get it... I will be testing it out this weekend... Thanks berkeman!

I will keep you posted...
 
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Berkeman here are the photos

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That's not a 320A power supply. Could you please clarify what it is/was, and what you are trying to do with it? Even if you're only dropping 3-4V in the regulator, that's about a kW of power that your 320A power supply would have to dissipate. That means fans and lots of metal heat sinking...
 
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xhunter911 said:
Hello all,

I am looking to build a small varible voltage regulator that I can control from the inside my vehichle, that will allow me to control the voltage of my 320 Amp Leece Neville stand alone alternator... Currently I use this alternator to power my amplifiers that will handle up to 20VDC. I also have paralleld (2) 8 volt batteries to make the equipment run on 16VDC instead of 13.8... Does anyone have simple schematics on this?

Any help or any suggestions will be appreciated...

If I am understanding your specs correctly, it seems you are just wanting a Vdc supply to operate at a voltage higher than your battery, used for an amplifier 10KW (PEP) for your 10m Xmtr. [I assume the output power on your amplifier was a typo. You probably recall, the maximum allowed power (if you are licensed in U.S.) on 10m amateur band is http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/radio-lab/RLH%20Unit%208.pdf ? Then you won't need to rectify the AC voltage and handle 320A from the alternator.
 
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