Build right triangle with two points and a line

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The problem involves determining a point on a specified line such that a triangle formed with two given points is a right triangle at one of those points. The points are A (1, -1, 0) and B (4, 0, 6), and the line is defined parametrically.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to find a point on the line that makes the triangle ABP a right triangle at point B. There are considerations about using vector properties, specifically the condition for perpendicularity between vectors. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed and considers various approaches, including finding distances and directional vectors.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the relationship between the vectors and the conditions for perpendicularity. Some have provided hints about using the scalar product to establish the necessary equations. There is ongoing verification of calculations and results, with one participant identifying an arithmetic error in their previous work.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on ensuring that the point P lies on the specified line, and the discussion includes checking the validity of the derived point against the conditions for a right triangle. Participants are also correcting typographical errors in their expressions.

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Homework Statement


Given the points ##A (1, -1, 0)## and ##B (4, 0, 6)##, find the point ##P## of the line ##s## so that the triangle ##ABP## is a right triangle in ##B##. Calculate the area of the triangle.
##s : \begin{cases}
x = 1 + 4t \\
y = 2 - 3t \\
z = 3
\end{cases}##
##\vec v_s = (4, -3, 0)##

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The Attempt at a Solution


I already know how to calculate the area of a triangle. The problem is actually finding the point that makes the triangle. I really have no idea on how to proceed in this case. I was thinking about finding the distances of the two points from the line but I don't think that would bring me anywhere. I tried finding the directional vector of the line that passes through the two points, which is ##\vec v_{AB} = (3, 1, 6)##, and find the relation between the two lines, maybe finding the intersection point too but it's useless. I really don't know where I should start. Any hint on how I should proceed?
 
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Do you remember how to tell whether two vectors are perpendicular? You've found a vector from A to B. You now need to find a vector from B to P and write down the condition that it is perpendicular to the vector from A to B, which will give you some equations that you can solve.

[Edited to correct typo]
 
Jonathan Scott said:
Do you remember how to tell whether two vectors are perpendicular?
Oh yes, the scalar product must be ##0##.
Jonathan Scott said:
You've found a vector from A to B. You now need to find a vector from B to P and write down the condition that it is perpendicular to the vector from A to B, which will give you some equations that you can solve.

[Edited to correct typo]
Oh! So I would have something like this:
##(3, 1, 6) \cdot (a - 4, b - 0, c - 6) = 0## with ##P (a, b, c)##
Am I right? But this would give me just one equation with three unknowns.
 
##P## is known to be a point on the line ##s##, so you can use the general expression for such a point, then solve for ##t##.

[Edited again to fix a typo]
 
Jonathan Scott said:
##P## is known to be a point on the line ##s##, so you can use the general expression for such a point, then solve for ##t##.

[Edited again to fix a typo]
I end up with ##t = \frac{25}{11}## and substituting this in the equations of ##s## I end up with this point ##(\frac{111}{11}, -\frac{53}{11}, 3)##. Is it correct? Because if I try then with those coordinates, I don't have a scalar product equal to zero.
 
That was a sensible sanity check. If your scalar product isn't zero, you've obviously got an arithmetic error, as the choice of ##t## was specifically to make it zero.
 
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Just to help you narrow it down, I'll say that the 11 in your value 25/11 for ##t## is incorrect.
 
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Thank you! I found the mistake. It was ##t = \frac{25}{9}##.
So the point is ##P (\frac{109}{9}, -\frac{19}{3}, 3)##
 
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