Building a 5 Wire Servo Controller

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the construction of a controller for a 5 wire servo, with participants exploring the nature of the connections and the feasibility of using a PIC microcontroller for this purpose. The conversation touches on the identification of the wires and the type of motor in question, including potential proprietary aspects of the interface.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the five wires of a 5 wire servo, suspecting power and ground but unsure about the remaining three connections.
  • Another participant asserts that the 5 wire motor is a stepper motor, requiring a special driver, and provides a link to a Wikipedia article for reference.
  • A different participant challenges the stepper motor identification, noting that servos typically exhibit resistance when turned by hand and produce a distinct sound, which they associate with servos.
  • One participant expresses frustration about potentially giving up on the project, suggesting that the servos may be part of a proprietary system due to the missing controller.
  • A later reply describes their experience with 5-wire synchro-resolvers, detailing the wiring configuration and the function of the wires in transmitting angular position signals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the 5 wire motor is a stepper motor or a type of servo, indicating a disagreement on the identification of the motor type and the corresponding wiring functions.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the specific type of servo and its wiring, as well as the proprietary nature of the interface, which may limit the ability to construct a controller without additional information.

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Hi,

I am supposed to build a controller for a 5 wire servo. I'm having trouble finding information online that appeals to electrical engineering folks.

What are the 5 wires? I suspect there is power and ground, but that leaves 3 unknown connections :eek:

I have a basic understanding of servomotors (though, by no means complete), to the point where I can get a handle on the application circuit in the following datasheet:

http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/MitsubishiElectricCorporation/mXyyzzzr.pdf

Maybe someone can help me understand what the 5 connections are in terms of the above circuit? Do you think it would be possible to make a basic controller with a PIC uC?

I know this post is kinda vague, so thanks for any thoughts or help.
 
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The five wire motor is a stepper motor. It's composed of a number of electromagnets that have to be activated in sequence to rotate the shaft. And you need a special driver for that too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepper_motor
 
Hmm, I don't think it's a stepper. From my experience, you can usually turn a stepper in your hand without much physical resistance. You don't get that dynamo charging sound like you do when you turn a servo. (I get the servo sound, on this one.)
 
seang said:
Hmm, I don't think it's a stepper. From my experience, you can usually turn a stepper in your hand without much physical resistance. You don't get that dynamo charging sound like you do when you turn a servo. (I get the servo sound, on this one.)

Never mind, forgot some servo motors have error correction for a feedback loop.
 
I think I might give up on this one. The servos are part of an xyz stage, which is supposed to come with a controller (both the stage and controller are made by the same company). Well, the controller has been missing for many years.

My thought is that the interface is somewhat proprietary; they probably don't want you to figure this one out ;). Thoughts on this?
 
The 5-wire synchro-resolvers ("servos") I have used had two wires for ac power and return, and the other three wires transmitted/received a 3-phase angular position signal to/from the other synchro. Either synchro could be used as a sender, and the other as a sender. We would put a hand crank on one and the other synchro would follow. I have never used more than two connected together.

Edit: These units were also called selsyns. See Figure 2 in this for wiring diagram:
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-051.htm
 
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