Bullet conservation of momentum problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a bullet conservation of momentum problem involving a 7-g bullet and a 1.5-kg ballistic pendulum. The initial momentum equations were set up, but rounding errors during calculations led to discrepancies in the final velocity of the bullet. After attempting various methods, the calculated initial speed of the bullet was found to be incorrect, with the correct answer being 529 m/s. Participants emphasized the importance of not rounding numbers until the final step to avoid significant errors. The conversation highlights the critical nature of precise calculations in physics problems.
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Homework Statement


A 7-g bullet is fired into a 1.5-kg ballistic pendulum. The bullet emerges from the block with a speed of 200 m/s, and the block rises to a maximum height of 12 cm. Find the initial speed of the bullet.

Homework Equations


conservation of momentum

The Attempt at a Solution


First I tried to find the initial momentum of the bullet as if it did't penetrate the block
so .007vi = (1.507)vf
because I have two unknowns I used the conservation of mechanical energy to solve for vf
1/2(1.507)(vf2) = (1.507)(9.8)(.12)
vf = 1.54 m/s
then plug that into find the initial velocity
vi = 435.29 m/s
initial momentum = 3.05

Then I tried to find the momentum of the bullet exiting the block and add it to the initial momentum to get the total initial momentum.
200(.007) = 1.4
1.4 + 3.05 = 4.45
and finally I divided that by the mass to get the initial velocity 635.75 m/s. The correct answer is 529 m/s.
 
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BrainMan said:
vi = 435.29 m/s

How did you get this number?
BrainMan said:
0.007vi = (1.507)vf
...
vf = 1.54 m/s

From this? (If yes, then double check your numbers.)
 
Other than that, looks good!

P.S.
You should not round your numbers until the very end. (Try to solve the problem with just algebra and then plug in the numbers at the end.) The reason is that your answer will be slightly off.

(In this problem and another you've recently posted, you rounded before the end which caused your answers to be off by about half a percent, which isn't much, but in some problems rounding before the end will cause you to be off by more than half a percent, and in other problems half a percent could be a meaningful error.)
 
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Nathanael said:
Other than that, looks good!

P.S.
You should not round your numbers until the very end. (Try to solve the problem with just algebra and then plug in the numbers at the end.) The reason is that your answer will be slightly off.

(In this problem and another you've recently posted, you rounded before the end which caused your answers to be off by about half a percent, which isn't much, but in some problems rounding before the end will cause you to be off by more than half a percent, and in other problems half a percent could be a meaningful error.)

OK I see what I did! Thanks!
 
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