C 12 physics problem: Water speed and duration of impact

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The problem involves a garden hose nozzle that shoots water vertically upward from a height of 1.5 meters. After adjusting the nozzle, the water strikes the ground 2.0 seconds later. Participants are tasked with determining the speed of the water as it leaves the nozzle, referencing a specific problem from the Giancoli textbook.

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  • Participants discuss various calculated speeds, with one suggesting 4.2 m/s and another mentioning 9.05 m/s. Questions arise regarding the relationship between the height reached by the water and its initial speed, as well as the factors influencing the duration of the water's impact on the ground.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different results and questioning the reasoning behind their calculations. There is an emphasis on the importance of explaining the physics involved rather than just providing an answer.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the complexity of the problem, indicating that it may not be solvable in a straightforward manner. There is also a focus on the educational aspect of understanding the underlying physics rather than solely achieving the correct numerical answer.

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I have the Giancoli text and I ran across this lvl III problem (pg 44 , #48) on the hmwk:

Suppose you adjust your garden hose nozzle for a hard stream of water. You point the nozzile vertically upwatd at a height of 1.5 m above the graound. When you quickly move the nozzle away from the vertical, you hear the water striking the ground next to you for another 2.0 secs. What is the speed as it leaves the nozzle

the drawing is something like this. The hose is the dash, the water is the x, the side dash is the length above the ground:

then it comes curving down in a parabola, the hose is 1.5 m from the ground

x
x
x
[ ]
[ ]
[ ]
[ ]
|
| > 1.5 m
|

- sorry for the bad illustration. I can't get it to work right

- I got 4.2 m/s after a bunch of algebra, can someone tell me if that's right and work it out possibly?
 
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faceblah said:
I have the Giancoli text and I ran across this lvl III problem (pg 44 , #48) on the hmwk:

Suppose you adjust your garden hose nozzle for a hard stream of water. You point the nozzile vertically upwatd at a height of 1.5 m above the graound. When you quickly move the nozzle away from the vertical, you hear the water striking the ground next to you for another 2.0 secs. What is the speed as it leaves the nozzle

the drawing is something like this. The hose is the dash, the water is the x, the side dash is the length above the ground:

then it comes curving down in a parabola, the hose is 1.5 m from the ground

x
x
x
[ ]
[ ]
[ ]
[ ]
|
| > 1.5 m
|

- sorry for the bad illustration. I can't get it to work right

- I got 4.2 m/s after a bunch of algebra, can someone tell me if that's right and work it out possibly?
Why don't you explain how you got it? What is the height that the water reaches? How is that related to the speed of the water?

AM
 
lol...it was really complicated, but umm someone else got 9.05 m/s and they did it in like one line. Iono thought because it was one of the last problem on that page so i don't think it can't be solved in like 1 line
 
faceblah said:
lol...it was really complicated, but umm someone else got 9.05 m/s and they did it in like one line. Iono thought because it was one of the last problem on that page so i don't think it can't be solved in like 1 line
So you were guessing? You get most of your marks for being able to explain the physics. the right answer is worth very little if you can't explain how you got it.

What determines how long the water continues to hit the ground after the water stops going up? How does that related to the speed of the water?

AM
 

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