Cal 3 Surfaces: Finding Derivatives at (1,1,1)

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The discussion focuses on finding the partial derivatives of the implicit function defined by the equation x8y7 + y3z6 + z8x63 + 6xyz = 9 at the point (1,1,1). The correct formulas for the derivatives are derived from the implicit function theorem, specifically fx = -Fx/Fz and fy = -Fy/Fz. Participants clarified the method for calculating these derivatives using the function F(x,y,z) = 0.

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Given that the surface x^8y^7+y^3z^6+z^8x63+6xyz=9 has the equation z=f(x,y) in a neighbourhod of the point (1,1,1) with f(x,y) differentiable, find the derivatives

fx(1,1)=

fy(1,1)=

Attempt: I tried plugging (1,1,1) in fx but it wasnt rigth. We haven't seen this in class and I don't know what to do.

Thanks
 
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If a funtion z = f(x,y) is defined implicitly by F(x,y,z)= 0 as in your problem, you can use the formulas:

f_x = -\frac {F_x}{F_z}\hbox{ and }f_y=-\frac{F_y}{F_z}
 
Hi lisa92! :smile:

I'd like to show you how to derive the formulas of LCKurtz.

With F(x,y,z)=0 you have:

d(F(x,y,z))=F_x(x,y,z)dx + F_y(x,y,z)dy + F_z(x,y,z)dz=0


From this you can find:

dz={-F_x(x,y,z)dx - F_y(x,y,z)dy \over F_z(x,y,z)}


Taking partial derivatives (for which the other coordinate is considered constant):

{\partial z \over \partial x}={-F_x(x,y,z) \over F_z(x,y,z)}

{\partial z \over \partial y}={-F_y(x,y,z) \over F_z(x,y,z)}


This can also be written as the formulas LCKurtz gave:

f_x={-F_x \over F_z}

f_y={-F_y \over F_z}
 

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