Calc 3: Strokes Therom Orientatio Question

  • Thread starter Thread starter Tom McCurdy
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Calc 3
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the application of Stokes' Theorem to a vector field F(x,y,z) = (x^2y^3z)i +(sin(xyz))j +(x^2yz)k over a cone surface S defined by y^2=x^2+z^2 between the planes y=0 and y=3. The user inquires about the parameterization of the boundary curve C, specifically why r(t) = 3sin(t) i + 3j + 3cos(t)k is used instead of r(t) = 3cos(t) i + 3j + 3sin(t)k, linking this to the positive orientation along the y-axis. The user also notes that swapping sine and cosine results in a negative integral, confirming that orientation affects the sign of the result in Stokes' Theorem.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Stokes' Theorem and its applications
  • Familiarity with vector fields and line integrals
  • Knowledge of parameterization of curves in three-dimensional space
  • Basic concepts of surface integrals and orientation
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the implications of curve orientation in Stokes' Theorem
  • Learn about parameterizing curves in cylindrical coordinates
  • Explore examples of Stokes' Theorem with different vector fields
  • Investigate the relationship between surface integrals and line integrals
USEFUL FOR

Students and educators in multivariable calculus, particularly those focusing on vector calculus and Stokes' Theorem applications.

Tom McCurdy
Messages
1,021
Reaction score
1

Homework Statement



[tex]F(x,y,z) = (x^2y^3z)i +(sin(xyz))j +(x^2yz)k[/tex]
S is the part of the cone [tex]y^2=x^2+z^2[/tex] that lies between the planes y = 0 and y = 3, oriented in the direction of the positive y-axis

My question deals with orientation (see below sec 3)

Homework Equations


[tex]\int_c F dr = \int\int_S F dS[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Alright so the boundary curve C is the circle [tex]x^2 + y^2 = 9[/tex] [tex]y=3[/tex]

My question is why does r(t) become
[tex]r(t) = 3sin(t) i+ 3j + 3cos(t)k[/tex]
instead of
[tex]r(t) = 3cos(t) i+ 3j + 3sin(t)k[/tex]

I am assuming it has something to do with the positive orientation towards positive y axis

When I did the problem I got the exact negitive of what the answer should be

i got [tex]\frac{-2187}{4}\pi[/tex] instead of [tex]\frac{2187}{4}\pi[/tex]

so I was also going to ask if I mess up the cos and sin like i did on this one should I always get the opposite sign of the correct answer or was this just random?

Also should all Strokes theorms problems be positive answers?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Tom McCurdy said:
so I was also going to ask if I mess up the cos and sin like i did on this one should I always get the opposite sign of the correct answer or was this just random?

If you swap sin and cos in your parameterization of the curve C, you will get the negative answer (provided there aren't any other curves to be integrated along) since this effectively reverses the orientation of the curve from C to -C (C traversed backward), this gives a negative answer because

[tex]\int_{-C}\vec{F}\cdot d\vec{r} = -\int_{C}\vec{F}\cdot d\vec{r}[/tex].

Tom McCurdy said:
Also should all Strokes theorms problems be positive answers?

No, absolutely not.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K