MHB Calc Challenge IV: Evaluate Limit of Int.

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The discussion focuses on evaluating the limit of the integral $$\lim_{{k}\to{\infty}} \int_{k}^{2k} \frac{k^3x}{x^5+1}\,dx$$. MarkFL efficiently solves the challenge using L'Hôpital's rule, prompting praise from other participants. There is a playful suggestion to solve the problem again without relying on L'Hôpital's rule, which leads to lighthearted banter. Participants express interest in exploring alternative methods for the solution. The conversation highlights both the mathematical challenge and the camaraderie among forum members.
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Evaluate $$\lim_{{k}\to{\infty}} \int_{k}^{2k} \frac{k^3x}{x^5+1}\,dx$$.
 
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My solution:

I would write the limit as:

$$L=\lim_{k\to\infty}\left[\frac{\int_{k}^{2k}\dfrac{x}{x^5+1}}{k^{-3}}\right]$$

Observing that we have the indeterminate form 0/0, application of L'Hôpital's rule yields:

$$L=\lim_{k\to\infty}\left[\frac{\dfrac{k}{k^5+1}-\dfrac{4k}{32k^2+1}}{3k^{-4}}\right]$$

This can be simplified to:

$$L=\frac{1}{3}\lim_{k\to\infty}\left[\frac{k^5\left(28k^5-3\right)}{\left(32k^5+1\right)\left(k^5+1\right)}\right]=\frac{1}{3}\cdot\frac{28}{32}=\frac{7}{24}$$
 
MarkFL said:
My solution:

I would write the limit as:

$$L=\lim_{k\to\infty}\left[\frac{\int_{k}^{2k}\dfrac{x}{x^5+1}}{k^{-3}}\right]$$

Observing that we have the indeterminate form 0/0, application of L'Hôpital's rule yields:

$$L=\lim_{k\to\infty}\left[\frac{\dfrac{k}{k^5+1}-\dfrac{4k}{32k^2+1}}{3k^{-4}}\right]$$

This can be simplified to:

$$L=\frac{1}{3}\lim_{k\to\infty}\left[\frac{k^5\left(28k^5-3\right)}{\left(32k^5+1\right)\left(k^5+1\right)}\right]=\frac{1}{3}\cdot\frac{28}{32}=\frac{7}{24}$$

Aww...that is fast and efficient of you, MarkFL to solve my today challenge! Well done MarkFL!

When you solved it using the L'Hôpital's rule, your solution becomes very neat and straightforward. I am wondering if you want to tackle it for another time without using the help from the L'Hôpital's rule, hehehe...
 
anemone said:
Aww...that is fast and efficient of you, MarkFL to solve my today challenge! Well done MarkFL!

When you solved it using the L'Hôpital's rule, your solution becomes very neat and straightforward. I am wondering if you want to tackle it for another time without using the help from the L'Hôpital's rule, hehehe...

Why do you want to tie my hands like that? (Wasntme)
 
MarkFL said:
Why do you want to tie my hands like that? (Wasntme)

Because I would sing a song for you if you try that!:p
 
Solution without the use of L'Hôpital's rule:

Since $x^5+1<x(x+1)^4$ and $x^5<x^5+1$ for $x\ge 1$, we have

$\dfrac{1}{(x+1)^4}<\dfrac{x}{x^5+1}<\dfrac{1}{x^4}$ for $x\ge 1$

It then follows that

$\displaystyle k^3\int_{k}^{2k} \frac{1}{(x+1)^4}\,dx<k^3\int_{k}^{2k} \frac{x}{x^5+1}\,dx<k^3\int_{k}^{2k} \frac{1}{x^4}\,dx$ for every $k\ge 1$.

Now,

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} k^3\int_{k}^{2k} \frac{1}{(x+1)^4}\,dx&=\dfrac{k^3}{3}\left(\dfrac{1}{(k+1)^3}-\dfrac{1}{(2k+1)^3}\right)\\&=\dfrac{1}{3}\left(\left(\dfrac{k}{(k+1)}\right)^3-\left(\dfrac{k}{(2k+1)^3}\right)^3\right)\\&=\dfrac{1}{3}\left(1-\dfrac{1}{8}\right)\text{when $k$ approaches $\infty$}\\&=\dfrac{7}{24}\end{align*}$

and

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} k^3\int_{k}^{2k} \frac{1}{x^4}\,dx&=\dfrac{k^3}{3}\left(\dfrac{1}{k^3}-\dfrac{1}{(2k)^3}\right)\\&=\dfrac{1}{3}\left(1-\dfrac{1}{8}\right)\text{when $k$ approaches $\infty$}\\&=\dfrac{7}{24}\end{align*}$

It follows by the Squeeze principle that hence $$\lim_{{k}\to{\infty}} \int_{k}^{2k} \frac{k^3x}{x^5+1}\,dx=\dfrac{7}{24}$$.
 
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