CalcIII: Solving Double Integral with F(x,y,z)

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral involving a vector field F(x,y,z) and a surface defined by z = √(a² - x² - y²). The context is within multivariable calculus, specifically focusing on surface integrals and potential applications of spherical coordinates.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the surface integral, with one participant attempting to evaluate it using polar coordinates. Questions arise regarding the definition of del G and the surface G, prompting clarification on the surface's equation and its implications for integration limits.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications about the surface and its representation. Some guidance on the use of spherical coordinates is suggested, but there is no explicit consensus on the limits of integration or the best approach to take.

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Participants express concerns about the clarity of the problem setup and the integration limits, indicating potential confusion stemming from recent topics covered in their coursework. There is mention of stress due to upcoming finals, which may affect the discussion's pace and focus.

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s\int\intF*Nds

F(x,y,z) = x*i + y*j - 2z*k

S: Z = \sqrt{}a^2 - x^2 -y^2

I solved for delG and doted F to del G. then I converted it polar since I had x^2 + y^2

I got:

\int\intr^3/(a^2-r^2)^(1/2)drdo - 2\int\int(a^2-r^2)rdrdo

I evaluated the double integral and got 4/3pi(a^2+a^3)

sorry for the shortcut guys, its just so much stuff to type if I try to some the work. Plz, tell me if my answer is wrong.
 
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Uh, what is delG? What is G here?
 
Defennnder said:
Uh, what is delG? What is G here?


del G is fxi + fyj + fzk which is

del G = x/sqrt(a^2-x^2-y^2)*i + y/sqrt(a^2-x^2-y^2)*j -2k

then the formula says I have to dot del G to F(x,y,z) which gives me

(x/sqrt(a^2-x^2-y^2)*i + y/sqrt(a^2-x^2-y^2)*j -2k) * (x*i + y*j - 2z*k)


delG*F = (x^2+y^2)/(sqrt(a^2-x^2-y^2) -2sqrt(a^2-x^2-y^2)

then I converted it to polar to make the integral easier

\int\intdelG*Fds = \int\int(r^2/(a^2-r^2) - 2sqrt(a^2-r^2))rdrd\Theta
 
What you have failed to say is that your surface is given by G(x,y,z)= \sqrt{a^2- x^2- y^2}- z= 0.
 
HallsofIvy said:
What you have failed to say is that your surface is given by G(x,y,z)= \sqrt{a^2- x^2- y^2}- z= 0.

how is it help me?
 
oh, ya. I remember my question now. Thanks for pointing out the surface. Actually I got up to that part...z-sqrt(a^2-x^2-y^2)..my question was the limits of integrating in this problem. Thanks for pointing out the surface euclide, however, I knew what the surface was its just the graphing, and finding the limits of integrating I am worrying about.
 
It helps us by telling us what you are talking about! You initially said "I solved for delG and doted F to del G" without saying what you meant by "G"!

Defennnder asked "Uh, what is delG? What is G here?" and you still did not say what G was.

z= \sqrt{a^2- x^2- y^2} is the upper half of the sphere x^2+ y^2+ z^2= a^2 Since you don't say anything about integrating over a portion of that, I must assume (hesitantly, given your reluctance to clearly state the entire problem) that you are to integrate over the entire hemisphere. You might want to x= 2cos(\theta)sin(\phi), y= 2sin(\theta)sin(\phi), z= 2cos(\phi), spherical coordinates with \rho set equal to 2, as parameters. To cover the entire sphere we take \theta= 0 to 2\pi, \phi= 0 to \pi. What should the limits be to get only the upper hemisphere?
 
thanks euclid. Sorry for the several grammatical errors. I have 4 finals coming up tomorrow, tuesday, so I am sort of stressng a bit. And not to mention that it is my first semester in college. ;D

anyways, I have to convert it to spherical? hmm, I usually convert things into polar coordinates, and my instructor rushed the discussion on the last 3 sections of our text, which are the surface integrals, divergence and stoke's. I'm really having troule in those sections (mostly algebraic problems). and thanks for stating the regions of integration.
 

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