Calculate 3d vector from angles with respect to x and y axis

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The discussion focuses on calculating a 3D vector in Cartesian coordinates using angles with respect to the x and y axes. It clarifies that if the angles with the x and y axes are both 60 degrees, the angle with the z-axis is not also 60 degrees, but rather 45 degrees. The correct method involves using the cosine of the angles to find the vector components and ensuring the vector has a unit length. Additionally, the relationship cos²(θ) + cos²(φ) + cos²(ψ) = 1 is confirmed as a valid approach to derive the angles. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying trigonometric principles in vector calculations.
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1. I am considering the problem of getting the equation for a 3d vector(magnitude irrelevant) in cartesian coordinates when given 2 angles with respect to arbitrary axes.

2. I think that 180-angle1-angle2=angle3

3. So if the angle between the x-axis and the vector is 60deg, and the angle between the y-axis and the vector is 60 deg, then the angle with the z axis will be 60d. So a possible solution vector would be <1,1,1>

Am I correct?

Thanks
 
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Here's a big hint: if \theta, \phi, and \psi are the angles a line or vector makes with the x, y, and z axes, respectively, then cos(\theta)\vec{i}+ cos(\phi)\vec{j}+ cos(\psi)\vec{k} is a unit length vector in that direction. If you know two of the angles, take the cosines of those as two components and find the third component by the condition that the vector has length 1.

In particular, You are mistaken in thinking that if the angles with the x and y axes are 60 degrees, then so is the angle with the z axis. If the angles with the x and y-axes are 60 degrees, then the x and y-components will be cos(60)= 1/2. The vector (1/2)\vec{i}+ (1/2)\vec{j}+ z\vec{k} has length \sqrt{1/4+ 1/4+ z^2}= 1 so 1/2+ z2= 1, z2= 1/2, z= \sqrt{2}/2. The unit vector in that direction is (1/2)\vec{i}+ (1/2)\vec{j}+ (\sqrt{2}/2)\vec{k} and the angle the vector makes with the z-axis is 45 degrees, not 60.

A unit vector in the same direction as \vec{i}+ \vec{j}+ \vec{k} would be (\sqrt{3}/3)\vec{i}+ (\sqrt{3}/3)\vec{i}+ (\sqrt{3}/3)\vec{k} and so would make angle arccos(\sqrt{3}/3) about 54.7 degrees with each axis, not 60 degrees.
 
Hey thank you. I got it now.

Is there an easy way to get the third angle or do I have to calculate the vector, solve for the component, and then take the arccosine?
 
nuggets said:
Hey thank you. I got it now.

Is there an easy way to get the third angle or do I have to calculate the vector, solve for the component, and then take the arccosine?

If I remember correctly, another formula is that

cos^2 \theta +cos^2 \phi + cos^2 \psi =1
 
Yes, that's why cos(\theta)\vec{i}+ cos(\phi)\vec{i}+ cos(\psi)\vec{k} is a unit vector. And using that is exactly the same as "calculate the vector, solve for the component, and then take the arccosine".
 
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