Calculate fluid flow in pipeline

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The discussion focuses on calculating fluid flow in a pipeline system with a pump efficiency of 75% and specific pressure values. Participants emphasize the importance of incorporating the friction factor and kinematic viscosity into calculations, particularly when using Bernoulli's equation. The correct approach involves adjusting pressure values and considering the pump's role in replacing height drops. Additionally, calculating the Reynolds number is crucial for determining the friction factor, which is necessary for accurate predictions. The conversation highlights the complexity of fluid dynamics in pipeline systems and the need for careful consideration of all variables.
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Homework Statement



The pump in the system below has an efficiency of 75%. The atmospheric pressure is 101 kPa and the vapor pressure is 2.3 kPa (in absolute units). Assume kinematic viscosity is 0.96x10-6 m2/s. Neglect minor losses.

a) Calculate the velocity through the main pipe and of the jet

and a few other questions to do with friction factor, etc.

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Homework Equations



AV=AV

v^2/2g + P/pg = v^2/2g + P/pg

Have been given the answers but no working. – 9.66 m/s for pipe and 38.64 m/s for jet

The Attempt at a Solution



First used AV=AV to get

v_2 = [(d_1)^2/(d_2)^2] v_1

Then I put this into Bernoulli with the relevant pressures P_1 = 700000, P_2 = 101000 but I only manage to get v_1 = 8.94 m/s.

I have tried working it with elevation head but still can't seem to get the right answer. I am thinking maybe I should have pump head? But not too sure how to calculate with what I have been given.
 
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My immediate thought is that 700kPa is a gauge pressure.
The 20m head provides pressure at the other end of the pipe - which should tell you what the pump is doing.

It may help if you think of the pump as replacing a drop in height.
 
You mentioned in your original post the "friction factor", and one of the pieces of data given was the kinematic viscosity. Where were these in your calculations? That pipe is only 2" in diameter, and is 400 meters long. Do you really think that the Bernoulli equation is going to give you an accurate prediction for this problem? What have you left out?

Chet
 
Simon Bridge said:
My immediate thought is that 700kPa is a gauge pressure.
The 20m head provides pressure at the other end of the pipe - which should tell you what the pump is doing.

It may help if you think of the pump as replacing a drop in height.

Thanks that helped get it sorted, changed my P_2 value and found the right answer
 
Chestermiller said:
You mentioned in your original post the "friction factor", and one of the pieces of data given was the kinematic viscosity. Where were these in your calculations? That pipe is only 2" in diameter, and is 400 meters long. Do you really think that the Bernoulli equation is going to give you an accurate prediction for this problem? What have you left out?

Chet

They are parts b,c,d when they want the friction factor, pump power and distance from reservoir to avoid cavitation. I can't seem to solve the NPSM but will keep trying.
 
Yes. I looked over the problem again, and Simon was right regarding the gage pressure (as your answer confirms). You next need to calculate the Reynolds number for the flow in the pipe. This will then allow you to determine the friction factor.

chet
 

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