Calculate Image Diameter of Sun in Concave Mirror with Given θ and f

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The problem involves calculating the diameter of the image of the sun formed by a concave mirror, given the angle θ that the sun subtends and the focal length f of the mirror. The discussion revolves around the implications of the sun being treated as an object at infinity and how light rays interact with the mirror.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the concept of the sun being at infinity and the resulting image formation. There is confusion regarding whether an image can be formed when light strikes the pole of the mirror, with some questioning the nature of reflection in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of how light rays behave when interacting with the concave mirror. Some guidance has been offered regarding the reflection of rays from different points on the sun and how they contribute to image formation.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of treating the sun as an infinitely large object and the resulting challenges in calculating the image diameter. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions related to the geometry of light reflection in concave mirrors.

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Homework Statement



The sun of (diameter D) subtends an angle of θ radians at the pole of the concave mirror of focal length f. The diameter of the image of the sun formed by mirror is _____

Homework Equations



1/v+1/u=1/f

The Attempt at a Solution


confused with question. Either i am getting zero or infinity(sun is too large!)..
 
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The sun can be taken to be at infinity so the image of the sun will be formed... where?
Light rays striking the centre of the mirror (from the top/bottom of the sun) will be reflected at same angle.
Can you get it from this?
 
technician said:
The sun can be taken to be at infinity so the image of the sun will be formed... where?
Light rays striking the centre of the mirror (from the top/bottom of the sun) will be reflected at same angle.
Can you get it from this?

when light strike at the pole of the concave mirror they are reflected like plane mirror. So No image should form?
Am i correct?
 
vkash said:
when light strike at the pole of the concave mirror they are reflected like plane mirror. So No image should form?
Am i correct?

No, only one ray from each point on the sun strikes the pole of the mirror. All the other rays strike somewhere else.
You do know what direction one other special ray will reflect, and every other ray from a given point on the sun will reflect through that same point - forming an image of that point.
Choosing a point on the "top" of the sun, and another on the "bottom"of the sun will enable you to locate the extent of the image of the sun.
 
vkash said:
when light strike at the pole of the concave mirror they are reflected like plane mirror. So No image should form?
Am i correct?

btw - have you ever seen an image of the sun "reflected in the side of a sky scraper"?
That should answer your question about whether an image is formed after reflection in a plane mirror.
 

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