Calculate the desired incident polarization of a light beam

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The discussion focuses on calculating the necessary incident polarization of a light beam reflecting off BK7 glass at a specific angle of incidence. Participants explore the implications of linear polarization and the application of Fresnel equations in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to determine the incident polarization of a light beam that is linearly polarized at 45 degrees when reflecting off BK7 glass.
  • Another participant confirms that if the reflected light is linearly polarized, the incoming light must also be linearly polarized in the case of external reflection.
  • Fresnel equations for TE and TM components are provided to relate the electric fields of the incoming and reflected light.
  • One participant proposes a method to calculate the degree of polarization using the formula V = Ip/(Ip+In), suggesting that Ip = Rs + Rp and In = 1/2(Rp + Rn).
  • Another participant computes a degree of polarization of approximately 66.67% based on specific parameters, but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of this calculation.
  • A correction is made regarding the refractive index value used in the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the application of Fresnel equations and the relationship between the polarization states of incoming and reflected light. However, there is uncertainty regarding the calculations of the degree of polarization, and no consensus is reached on the correctness of the computed value.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the polarization states and the specific refractive index values used in calculations. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in determining the degree of polarization.

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Hi I want to calculate the necessary incident polarization of a light beam at a given angle of incidence (theta_i) that reflects off BK7 glass (n = 1.5168) and is linearly polarized (i.e., 45 degrees). I know how to do similar calculations for incident natural unpolarized light, but not in the case of incoming polarized light.

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Corwin_S said:
Hi I want to calculate the necessary incident polarization of a light beam
What type of polarization is it, linear?
 
The reflected beam comes out linearly polarized (50/50 s/p). I'm trying to find the incoming beam's polarization (assume it is not circularly or ellipitically polarized).
 
Forget my previous comment, if the reflected light is linearly polarized then so is the incoming one for the case of external reflection (##n_2 > n_1##).
Anyway, you have Fresnel equations for TE and TM components:
$$
\frac{E_r^{TE}}{E_i^{TE}} = \frac{n_1\cos \theta_1 - n_2\cos \theta_2}{n_1\cos \theta_1 + n_2\cos \theta_2}
$$
$$
\frac{E_r^{TM}}{E_i^{TM}} = \frac{n_2\cos \theta_1 - n_1\cos \theta_2}{n_2\cos \theta_1 + n_1\cos \theta_2}
$$
Now it's required that ##E_r^{TE}=E_r^{TM}## and that ##\theta_1## is given, from which ##\theta_2## will follow from Snell's law. So, isn't it straightforward to get the ratio of the components of the incoming light?
 
This is completely correct. Those can be called the reflection coefficients of the s and p polarized components. I believe the correct way of determining the polarization of the input is to find the degree of polarization:

V = Ip/(Ip+In)
And I believe, although am not sure, that Ip = Rs + Rp and In = 1/2(Rp + Rn).

Hence given the specs n = 1.5154 @ 650 nm, and the incidence/reflectance angle = 50 degrees, I compute the degree of polarization to be ~66.67%.

I don't know if this is right though.
 
Corwin_S said:
This is completely correct. Those can be called the reflection coefficients of the s and p polarized components. I believe the correct way of determining the polarization of the input is to find the degree of polarization:

V = Ip/(Ip+In)
And I believe, although am not sure, that Ip = Rs + Rp and In = 1/2(Rp + Rn).

Hence given the specs n = 1.5154 @ 650 nm, and the incidence/reflectance angle = 50 degrees, I compute the degree of polarization to be ~66.67%.

I don't know if this is right though.
Correction, n =1.5145
 

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