Calculate the number of plates required for a heat exchanger

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the number of plates required for a heat exchanger, focusing on the heat transfer calculations involving cooling water and wort. Participants explore the application of the log mean temperature difference (LMTD) method and the relevant equations for heat transfer.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents initial calculations for heat transfer, including specific temperatures, densities, and specific heats for water and wort.
  • Another participant questions the conversion of temperature differences from degrees Celsius to Kelvin and suggests verifying the LMTD calculation.
  • A participant calculates the heat load using a different approach and provides the two end temperature differences for LMTD calculation.
  • Further clarification on LMTD is provided, with a corrected calculation leading to a different area requirement and number of plates.
  • Questions arise regarding the units used in the heat load calculation, specifically the conversion of flow rates from hectoliters per hour to cubic meters.
  • A participant confirms the conversion factor between hectoliters and cubic meters.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct number of plates required, as different calculations yield varying results. There is ongoing discussion about the correct application of formulas and unit conversions.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations depend on specific assumptions regarding flow rates and temperature differences, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and differing interpretations of the LMTD method.

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Homework Statement
Calc wort flow rate ratio and no. Of plates required to cool 360 hl hr-1 wort, in counter current flow from 98 degrees C to 15 degrees C using plate heat exchanger
Relevant Equations
Q=UAdT
Cooling water inlet temp is 4 degrees C
Cooling water outlet temp is 80 degrees C
Density of water is 1000 kgm-3
Specific heat water is 4.2kJkg-1K-1
Density wort is 1060 kgm-3
Specific heat wort is 4.0Kjkg-1K-1
Overall heat transfer coeff is 3000Wm-2k-1
Area of each plate is 0.75m2

For water: wort flow rate ratio I've said
Heat lost by hot wort = heat gained by cold
Mh x Cph x (Tih-Toh) = Mc x Cpc x (Toc-Tic)
(360)(4000)(98-15) = Mc(4200)(80-4)
Mc = 374.436
374.436:360
1.04:1

This is expected answer.

Im having trouble calculating no. Of plates req which should be 111
I should use log mean temp differemce in heat transfer rate eq

So q=UA(LMTD)
Overall heat trans co is in K so change C to K
LMTD is 83-75/ln(83/76) is 79.44 degrees C or 352.99 Kelvin
Q=3000(A)(352.99)

Q is also Mh x Cph x (Tih-Toh) = (360)(4000)(98C-15C) or 360(4000)(356.15K)
512856000=3000A352.99
A = 484.29
Each plate is 0.75m2 x 484.29 = 363.21 plates
Can someone show me how to get 111 here.
Q from past exam paper
 
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sci0x said:
Relevant Equations:: Q=UAdT
Overall heat trans co is in K so change C to K
what about changing a temperature difference from ##\Delta ^\circ C## to ##\Delta K## ?

sci0x said:
LMTD is 83-75/ln(83/76)
You forgot the brackets
and the numbers are weird -- look up what LMTD means
 
The heat load is ##Q=(36)(1060)(4.0)(98-15)=12700000\ kJ/hr=3519\ kj/s=3519000\ W##

The two end temperature differences are 18 C and 11 C. What is the LMTD based on these?
 
Hi Chester, i messed up there:
dt1 is 98-80 = 18
dt2 is 15-4 is 11

LMTD is 18-11/ln(18/11) is 14.21

The heat load is 3519000W

3519000 = (3000)(A)(14.21)
A= 82.54m2

82.54/0.75 = 110 plates

Just wondering in your calculation Q=(36)(1060)(4.0)(98-15)
What units are the 36 in, to convert from 360hl hr-1
 
sci0x said:
Hi Chester, i messed up there:
dt1 is 98-80 = 18
dt2 is 15-4 is 11

LMTD is 18-11/ln(18/11) is 14.21

The heat load is 3519000W

3519000 = (3000)(A)(14.21)
A= 82.54m2

82.54/0.75 = 110 plates

Just wondering in your calculation Q=(36)(1060)(4.0)(98-15)
What units are the 36 in, to convert from 360hl hr-1

How many hl are there in a m^3?
 
Okay m3
1hl = 0.1m3
360hl = 36m3

Cheers
 

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