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The problem involves calculating the voltmeter reading in a circuit with a light-dependent resistor (LDR) under different lighting conditions. The original poster seeks to determine the voltmeter reading in moonlight with the switch open and the resistance value of another resistor when the switch is closed in daylight.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify their understanding of the circuit components, specifically the role of the switch and the LDR. They question whether their representation of the circuit is correct. Other participants provide corrections regarding the nature of the switch compared to a diode and discuss the implications of the switch being open or closed on the circuit's behavior.

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The discussion includes attempts to analyze the circuit and calculate the voltmeter reading based on the given resistances. Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's logic and calculations, indicating that the reasoning appears sound, but no consensus has been reached regarding the final values.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the switch behaves as an ideal switch with no resistance and are exploring the implications of the LDR's resistance values in different lighting conditions. There is an ongoing examination of the circuit's configuration and the relationships between the components.

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Homework Statement


The light-dependent resistor (LDR) in the circuit below is found to have resistance 800 Ω in moonlight and resistance 160 Ω in daylight. Calculate the voltmeter reading, Vm, in moonlight with the switch S open.

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If the reading of the voltmeter in daylight with the switch S closed is also equal to Vm what is the value of the resistance R?

Answers: 8.0 V, 50 Ω

2. The attempt at a solution
At first I would like to check whether I understand the scheme correctly. The switch S is a diode (open is a reverse-biased and closed is a forward-biased). The LDR is just a regular resistor, just need to take into account different values of resistance depending on the daytime. Should this be correct?

I this representation correct?
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A switch is not a diode. A switch will pass current in either direction with equal facility and does not exhibit a potential drop when current passes through it (at least for an ideal switch). Diodes pass current in one direction only, and except for ideal diodes cause a potential drop on the order of a half volt when they do.

It's better to think of a switch as a zero resistance wire connection that can be inserted or removed manually.

Your redrawn circuit is fine.
 
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gneill said:
A switch is not a diode. A switch will pass current in either direction with equal facility and does not exhibit a potential drop when current passes through it (at least for an ideal switch). Diodes pass current in one direction only, and except for ideal diodes cause a potential drop on the order of a half volt when they do.

It's better to think of a switch as a zero resistance wire connection that can be inserted or removed manually.

Your redrawn circuit is fine.
We need to find the voltmeter reading during moonlight when the resistance is 800 Ω and the switch is open. If the switch is open, the resistor R is shut off. Therefore we have only two resistors 200 + 800 = 1000 Ω. I = V / R = 10 / 1000 = 0.01 A. Now we find the 200 Ω has V200 = I R200 = 0.01 * 200 = 2 V, and the LDR resistor, as a result has 8 V. Since the voltmeter is connected to LDR, its reading is 8 V. Correct logic?

Update: for the second question we have: since the reading doesn't change, therefore V = I R and we can find I = V / R = 8 / 160 = 0.05 A of the whole circuit. Then, knowing V = 2 V and I = 0.05 A, we find the RParallel: R = V / I = 2 / 0.05 = 40 Ω. Then, by 1 / R = 1 / R + 1 / R → 1 / 40 = 1 / 200 + 1 / R → R = 50 Ω. Should be correct.
 
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That all looks good. Well done.
 
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