Calculate Unknown Voltages in Amplifier Circuit

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The discussion revolves around calculating unknown voltages in amplifier circuits, particularly focusing on operational amplifiers (op-amps). Participants seek resources and guidance on understanding the principles and calculations involved in these circuits.

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  • Some participants request materials or examples to help understand how to calculate unknown voltages in amplifier circuits.
  • Others suggest that sharing a specific circuit diagram would facilitate more targeted assistance.
  • Hints are provided regarding the conditions for an op-amp to operate in linear mode and the implications of input current and impedance.
  • One participant shares a link to a resource titled "Op Amps for Everyone," suggesting it as a comprehensive introduction to op-amps.
  • Another participant mentions the importance of understanding Ohm's law and potential dividers in the context of op-amp circuits.
  • A specific worked example is presented, detailing calculations for voltages in a given circuit configuration, including the effects of negative feedback.

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Participants generally agree on the need for specific examples and resources to aid in understanding, but there is no consensus on a single method or approach to calculating unknown voltages, as various hints and suggestions are offered without a definitive resolution.

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Some participants express feeling overwhelmed by the amount of information available, indicating that the discussion may involve varying levels of prior knowledge and understanding among contributors.

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Individuals learning about operational amplifiers, students seeking assistance with homework related to amplifier circuits, and those looking for resources to deepen their understanding of voltage calculations in electronics.

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Hi

Does anybody have any useful material on how to calculate unknown voltages in an amplifier circuit.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Enochfoul said:
Does anybody have any useful material on how to calculate unknown voltages in an amplifier circuit.
Yes. But there are many different types of circuits. It is best to attach a picture or post a link to the actual circuit.
We can then show you how to find the unknown voltage.
 
Baluncore said:
Yes. But there are many different types of circuits. It is best to attach a picture or post a link to the actual circuit.
We can then show you how to find the unknown voltage.
Here are the circuit examples. Thanks
 

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Hints for circuit a)...
There is an input current specified.
For the op amp to be operating in a linear mode what must the voltage be on the -ve input?
If the input impedance of the opamp is high, where does the input current go?
 
CWatters said:
Hints for circuit a)...
There is an input current specified.
For the op amp to be operating in a linear mode what must the voltage be on the -ve input?
If the input impedance of the opamp is high, where does the input current go?
Hi Thanks for the reply. I am just starting out with learning about these circuits so my original question was does anybody have any material that can help me understand how to calculate unknown voltages in these types of circuits. The image is an example of what I am working towards solving. The hints are much appreciated though.
 
You need to know that ...
An op-amp output voltage rises if input(+) is greater than input(–).
The op-amp output voltage falls if input(+) is lower than input(–).
That means that when input(+) is equal to input(–) the output will be stable.

Currents flowing through resistors drop voltages. Ohms law. V = I * R.
Chains of resistors form potential dividers.

Start here with op-amp circuits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_amplifier_applications#Amplifiers
 
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Hi Enochfoul,

MIT has received permission to provide a older edition of "Op Amps for Everyone", which is Texas Instruments' stellar and easy-to-follow introduction to op amps. It covers almost everything you would need to know about op amps to become an expert, and will be really helpful in solving the kinds of problems you showed and can expect to encounter.

http://web.mit.edu/6.101/www/reference/op_amps_everyone.pdf
 
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Thanks for all of your help.
 
OPamps for Everyone is a wonderful reference.
Beginners should print a hard copy and put it in a 3 ring binder for frequent reference.

Likewise AN31 , opamp circuit collection.
http://www.ti.com/ww/en/bobpease/assets/AN-31.pdf
 
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http://www.ti.com/ww/en/bobpease/index.html?keyMatch=bob%20pease&tisearch=Search-EN-Everything
 
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Thank you for all of the information there is a lot of it! I am still trying to figure out how to calculate the unknown voltages and I have looked everywhere for a worked example to show how to calculate the unknowns. It is probably staring me right in the face in the materials you have given me! Does anybody have a worked example of a how to find these unknown voltages? I am a bit overwhelmed by the amount of information out there.
 
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My simple rules from post #6 hold.
Here is the first solution. Fig.1.a.
Negative feedback through 100k makes both op-amp inputs ground potential.
Input current is 10uA, input resistance 10k, so Ohms law says V1 = 10k * 10uA = 100mV = +0.1V
There is no current flowing in either ideal op-amp input terminal. So current through 100k must also be 10uA.
The input current of 10uA flows down on through 100k.
Therefore V2 = zero volts – (100k * 10uA) = –1000mV. Therefore V2 = –1.0V
 

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