Calculating 3D Vector Resultant - Suneyna

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The discussion revolves around calculating the resultant of two 3D vectors, exploring the conditions under which their resultant can point in a different direction than the individual vectors. Participants are examining the mathematical approach to vector addition and the implications of vector orientation in three-dimensional space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Suneyna requests guidance on calculating the resultant of two specific 3D vectors.
  • One participant suggests a notation preference for vector representation and explains how to calculate the resultant vector.
  • Suneyna expresses confusion about whether two downward-pointing vectors can have an upward-pointing resultant, raising a question about the geometric interpretation of vectors not lying in the same plane.
  • Another participant challenges the notion that two vectors must lie in the same plane if they originate from the same point.
  • Suneyna provides the coordinates of the vectors and their calculated resultant, seeking confirmation on the correctness of the calculation and expressing uncertainty about the directions of the vectors.
  • One participant indicates that the mathematical calculations appear correct but questions the basis of Suneyna's confusion regarding vector directions.
  • Suneyna elaborates on the context of the vectors being drawn from a structure in MATLAB, emphasizing the perceived directions based on their graphical representation.
  • Suneyna seeks further validation on whether the resultant vector should logically point downwards based on the individual vectors' orientations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the geometric interpretation of the vectors and their resultant. There are competing views regarding the orientation of the vectors and the conditions under which their resultant can point in a different direction.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of "downward" and "upward" in the context of 3D vectors, as well as the implications of vector orientation in three-dimensional space.

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Hello All,

Please guide me to calculate the resultant of the following two 3D vectors.
vec1 =(-0.3960i,4.6660j,15.2610k)
vec2 =(-4.1230i,-13.2200j,17.9170k)

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Suneyna
 
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First a matter of notation- don't use parens and commas and "i", "j", and "k". Either (a, b, c) or ai+ bj+ ck.

The "resultant" or sum of the vectors ai+ bj+ ck and ui+ vj+ wk is just (a+ u)i+ (b+ v)j+ (c+ w)k.
 
Thanks for the response and guiding me about the correct notation.
I calculated the resultant in the same way as you mentioned.
Now I want to ask you that is it possible that two 3d vectors pointing downwards (but both didn't lie in the same plane) can have their resultant in upward direction.
 
suneyna said:
Now I want to ask you that is it possible that two 3d vectors pointing downwards (but both didn't lie in the same plane) can have their resultant in upward direction.

What do you mean by two 3d vectors not lying the the same plane? As far as I know, any two vectors must lie on the same plane (if all vectors point from the origin).
 
I don't know how to paste a figure in the thread to make my point clear. but i am writing my vectors coordinates as follows:

vec1 =(-0.3960,4.6660,15.2610)

vec2 =(-4.1230,-13.2200,17.9170), both originated from origin (0,0,0) and the resultant is: res =(-4.5190,-8.5540,33.1780)

So, am i calculating the resultant in the right way?
I am pretty confused with their (above two vectors and resultant) directions.
 
It's looks like you are doing the math correctly. However, I'm confused as to why you are confused. I don't see any vector that points downward.
 
Dear I am working on a structure in MATLAB and drawn a vector 1, which originates from origin(0,0,0) and pointing towards one end of the structure and hence calculate vec1 from the coordinate information of the structure itself as vec1 =(-0.3960,4.6660,15.2610). Now, If u draw it in MATLAb or on some graphical tool, you will get the direction as i said.
Similarlily, I calculated vector 2 as vec2 =(-4.1230,-13.2200,17.9170), I know it is also, originated from origin so from the magnitude itself you can draw this vector too.

Now, I am thinking that the resultant vector res =(-4.5190,-8.5540,33.1780) should lie in between these two vectors, originating from origin and should points downwards as seen in above two (but not sure).

I am confused as this seems to be correct in 2d but for 3d i m not sure.
So I want your suggestion to be sure that i am working in right direction or not?
 

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