Calculating a Motion Integral Without Hyperbolic Trigonometry

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The discussion revolves around calculating a specific integral involving a square root and a rational function. The integral presented is \(\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{\frac{1}{x} - \frac{1}{b}}}\), where \(b\) is a positive constant. Participants are exploring various methods to compute this integral from scratch, without relying on known results.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss a substitution to transform the integral into a rational function, which simplifies the square root. Another participant attempts to convert the integral into a form involving trigonometric functions but encounters difficulties. There is also a suggestion to avoid hyperbolic trigonometry altogether by using a sine substitution.

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The discussion includes various approaches and substitutions, with some participants expressing challenges in solving the transformed integrals. While one participant claims to have completed the problem, the overall conversation reflects ongoing exploration and differing strategies without a clear consensus on the best method.

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Some participants question the necessity of hyperbolic trigonometry in solving the integral, indicating a potential area of debate regarding the most effective techniques for this type of problem.

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[tex]\int \frac{dx} { \sqrt{ \frac{1}{x} - \frac{1}{b}} }[/tex]
where b is a positive constant.
Using http://integrals.wolfram.com" , I know the result:
[tex]-\sqrt{bx} \sqrt{b-x} + b\sqrt{b} \tan^{-1}( \frac{\sqrt{x}} {\sqrt{b-x}})[/tex]
but how do I calculate it from scratch?
 
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I'd substitute

[tex] \frac{1}{x} - \frac{1}{b} = y^2 \Leftrightarrow \frac{1}{x} = y^2 + \frac{1}{b} \Leftrightarrow x = \frac{b}{{by^2 + 1}} \Leftrightarrow dx = \frac{{ - b^2 y}}{{\left( {by^2 + 1} \right)^2 }}[/tex]

It gets rid of the square root and returns a rational function in y.
 
After a few conversions, I ended up with this
[tex]C \int \frac{du}{(u^2 + 1)^2}[/tex]
Which I couldn't solve. I tried switching
[tex]u = \sinh(t), du = \cosh(t)dt[/tex]
and
[tex]\int \frac{dt}{\cosh^3(t)}[/tex]
but got stuck again.
 
Got it done. Thanks!
 
gulsen said:
Got it done. Thanks!
You're welcome!
 
The way i see it, there's no need for hyperbolic trigonometry.

[tex]\int \frac{\sqrt{bx}}{\sqrt{b-x}} \ dx[/tex]

becomes under the substitution [tex]\sqrt{x} =\sqrt{b} \sin t[/tex]

an integral ~ to [itex]\int \sin^{2} t \ dt[/itex].

Daniel.
 

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