Calculating Arc Length for a Curved Function with a Starting Point of (0,1)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the arc length for the curve defined by the equation $y=\sin^{-1}(x)+\sqrt{1-x^2}$, starting from the point (0,1). Participants explore the integration process and the correctness of their answers, as well as the use of calculators for verification.

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  • One participant presents an expression for the arc length and expresses uncertainty about its correctness.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the argument for the inverse sine function and emphasizes the need for intermediary steps in the solution.
  • A participant mentions that the answer in the back of the book is $2\sqrt{2}(\sqrt{1+x}-1)$, suggesting it is a more simplified version of the earlier provided answer.
  • Further, a participant explains how to manipulate the original answer to show its equivalence to the book's answer by multiplying by a factor and distributing a negative sign.
  • One participant acknowledges the explanation provided by another, indicating a moment of understanding.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the initial answer provided. There are multiple viewpoints regarding the steps needed to arrive at the correct arc length, and some participants express differing opinions on how to structure the discussion threads.

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There is a lack of clarity regarding the argument for the inverse sine function and the specific steps taken in the integration process. The discussion also reflects a dependency on the definitions used in the problem.

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Students and individuals interested in calculus, particularly those focusing on arc length calculations and integration techniques.

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find the arc length for the curve $y=sin^{-1}+\sqrt{1-x^2}$ with starting point (0,1).

$y'=\frac{1-x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}$

$\int_{0}^{x} \ \sqrt{1+(\frac{1-x}{\sqrt{1-x^2}})^2},dx$

my answer is $\frac{-2\sqrt{2}*(\sqrt{\frac{1}{x+1}}-1)}{\sqrt{\frac{1}{x+1}}}$

i think my answer is wrong though
 
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I have moved your new question to a new thread. Please don't tag new questions onto existing threads. This makes threads harder to follow. :D
 
ineedhelpnow said:
find the arc length for the curve $y=sin^{-1}+\sqrt{1-x^2}$ with starting point (0,1)...

What is the argument for the inverse sine function?

You go from an integral to a final answer...in order to more easily determine if you are correct and ensure you are doing things correctly, we need to see the intermediary steps. :D
 
i only put it under the other thread because i didnt want to start too many new threads and they were the exact same topic. we're supposed to use our calculator for the question so i just put it in there. the answer in the back of the book is $2\sqrt{2}(\sqrt{1+x}-1)$
 
ineedhelpnow said:
i only put it under the other thread because i didnt want to start too many new threads and they were the exact same topic. we're supposed to use our calculator for the question so i just put it in there. the answer in the back of the book is $2\sqrt{2}(\sqrt{1+x}-1)$

It is preferable to have more threads that deal with fewer problems per thread than fewer threads with many problems. The threads are easier to follow and allow for more efficient searching.

The answer you gave is equivalent to the more simplified answer given by your book. Take your answer and multiply by:

$$1=\frac{\sqrt{1+x}}{\sqrt{1+x}}$$

and then distribute the negative sign out front into the factor in parentheses. :D
 
oooh that makes sense.
 

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