Calculating Average Velocity from Position Vectors: A Short Guide

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The discussion revolves around calculating average velocity from position vectors defined as functions of time. The position vector is given in terms of two components, x(t) and y(t), with specific coefficients provided. Participants are addressing how to compute average velocity over a specified time interval, as well as instantaneous velocity and speed at a particular time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula for average velocity as the change in position over the change in time. There are attempts to calculate position vectors at different times, and questions arise about the clarity of variable definitions and the relationship between velocity and speed.

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Some participants are providing guidance on how to approach the calculation of average velocity using position vectors, while others are questioning the clarity of the problem setup and variable notation. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a vector approach to find the average velocity.

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There are concerns about the clarity of variable definitions, particularly regarding the constants used in the position functions. Some participants suggest that standard symbols should be used for better understanding. Additionally, there is a mention of whether calculus is necessary for the problem, indicating varying levels of mathematical background among participants.

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Homework Statement



Suppose that the position vector for a particle is given as a function of time by (t) = x(t) + y(t), with x(t) = at + b and y(t) = ct2 + d,where a = 1.70 m/s, b = 1.20 m, c = 0.122 m/s2, and d = 1.18 m.
(a) Calculate the average velocity during the time interval from t = 2.05 s to t = 4.05 s.
(b)Determine the velocity at t = 2.05 s.
(c)Determine the speed at t = 2.05 s.

Homework Equations


for a.) I used Vavg=delta r/delta t

The Attempt at a Solution


for a.) for rf i got x(t)=8.05
y(t)=3.181

for ri i got x(t)=4.685
y(t)=1.69

and delta t=4.05-2.05=2

Im not getting it. Someone please help
 
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Post the complete problem.
 
listing the variables as a,b,c,d does us no good. We can assume what they are with the units but i don't know what b and d are.

Basically, use the standard symbols.
 
sorry about that
 
Do I take it that: $$\vec{r}(t)=x(t)\hat{\imath}+y(t)\hat{\jmath}$$... where: ##x(t)=v_xt+x_0## and ##y(t)=a_yt^2+y_0##

These are position-time functions - I changed the variable names to reflect their roles.
From these you can find ##v_x(t)##, and ##v_y(t)##

(a) average velocity is change in position over change in time - you have two position vectors - what is the distance between their end-points?

(b) ##v_x(t)=\dot{x}(t)##

(c) how is the speed and the velocity related?
 
piercegirl said:

Homework Statement



Suppose that the position vector for a particle is given as a function of time by (t) = x(t) + y(t), with x(t) = at + b and y(t) = ct2 + d,where a = 1.70 m/s, b = 1.20 m, c = 0.122 m/s2, and d = 1.18 m.
(a) Calculate the average velocity during the time interval from t = 2.05 s to t = 4.05 s.
(b)Determine the velocity at t = 2.05 s.
(c)Determine the speed at t = 2.05 s.

Homework Equations


for a.) I used Vavg=delta r/delta t


The Attempt at a Solution


for a.) for rf i got x(t)=8.05
y(t)=3.181

for ri i got x(t)=4.685
y(t)=1.69

and delta t=4.05-2.05=2

I'm not getting it. Someone please help
Do you know Calculus?
 
Gudduy cobber;
Does not need calculus if kinematics is available
... anyway, piercegirl got stuck on average velocity. The calc is in the next bit.

I know - calculus is fun and we want to spread the Word... ;)
 
Hi piercegirl!

You're on the right track.
I guess you need to be aware of the fact that an average "velocity" is a vector.

You have position vectors at both locations.
Can you subtract those position vectors, yielding a change in position vector?
And divide that by the change in time?

In other words, can you calculate:
$$\mathbf{\vec v}_{avg} = {\mathbf{\vec{Δr}} \over Δt}$$
 

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