Calculating Balloon Range and Altitude

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The discussion revolves around calculating the range and altitude of a hypothetical vacuum airship using given parameters such as displaced volume, mass, and net force. The user acknowledges the need to factor in changes in pressure and density with altitude, as the maximum altitude is reached when buoyant force equals weight. There's also a mention of the limitations of conventional materials like latex in weather balloons, which expand until they burst. The user reflects on their thought process and recognizes the importance of understanding buoyancy dynamics in their calculations. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexities involved in determining the behavior of buoyant objects in varying atmospheric conditions.
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I feel kinda stupid asking this, since I have a bachelor's degree in physics. But, here it goes: I'm doing a thought experiment on my own (i.e., not a homework problem) for a hypothetical vacuum airship. I've determined the following quantities:

V_displaced = 15 m^3
m = 13.5 kg
F_net = F_buoyancy - Weight = 44.0 N upwards
a = 3.26 m/s^2 upwards
I'm assuming that winds are calm (i.e. v_wind = 0), and I've not factored in how pressure and density change over altitude.

Again, I feel like a dunderhead for asking this, but using these quantities, how can I calculate range and altitude? All the equations I know involve the use of initial velocity, but the only forces acting on the airship are gravity and the buoyant force.
 
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Okay, I thought about it some more, and I realized: I will need to factor in the change of pressure and density, because the maximum altitude is when the buoyant force is equal to the weight. Duh. Now I'm off to figure that out.
 
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