Calculating Coefficient of Thermal Expansion for a Rod

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of thermal expansion for a rod, based on measurements taken at different temperatures. The original poster describes a scenario where a rod's length is measured at two temperatures, and they seek assistance in determining the change in length.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to calculate the change in length (delta L) of the rod and question the impact of the ruler's thermal expansion on the measurements. Some suggest considering the coefficient of thermal expansion for the ruler and how it may affect the calculations.

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There are various attempts to clarify the problem, with some participants providing coefficients for the thermal expansion of steel and suggesting alternative values. The discussion is ongoing, with no clear consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of provided measurements and the assumption that both the rod and the ruler expand with temperature. The original poster expresses frustration over not arriving at the correct coefficient despite multiple attempts.

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A rod is measured to be exactly 21.81 cm long using a steel ruler at a temperature of 21.5°C. Both the rod and the ruler are placed in an oven with a temperature of 345.0 °C where the rod now measures 21.93 cm using the same ruler. What is the coefficient of thermal expansion for the material of which the rod is made?

I have spent over 8 hours trying to figure this out and cant. I need help mainly figureing out delta L of the rod. Any help would be greatful
 
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Hi - Do you know the coefficient of thermal expansion of the steel ruler?

If so, you can determine how much the the ruler expanded (from point 0 to point 21.93) at 345.0 oC.

Given that, you know the new length of the rod.

Try it, see if it works.

Regards, BobM
 
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11x10^-6 is the coef I have tried what I think is everything and still no luck on the right answer. I am pretty sure I am setting it up right DeltaL = coef L DeltaT but can't seem to work it out to get the right coef for the rod
 
Indy2424 said:
11x10^-6 is the coef I have tried what I think is everything and still no luck on the right answer. I am pretty sure I am setting it up right DeltaL = coef L DeltaT but can't seem to work it out to get the right coef for the rod

Maybe try 13*10-6 for the steel ruler?

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/thexp.html#c1
 
The coefficient of thermal expansion for steel is (10.5e-6), according to my book.
 
Does it make sense that if you know the new length of the rod, you could easily calculate the rod's coefficient of expansion? If so, can you calculate what 21.93 cm on the ruler would equal if you cooled the ruler down? That would be the real length of the heated rod.
 

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