Calculating Deceleration in a Car Crash

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average deceleration of a driver thrown forward during a car crash. Initially, the driver’s speed was converted incorrectly, leading to a miscalculation of time and deceleration. After several corrections, it was established that the average velocity during deceleration is half the initial speed, resulting in a more accurate time calculation. The final average deceleration was determined to be approximately -3.85 m/s² after correcting the initial velocity and time. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately calculating average velocity and recognizing that the driver does not maintain constant speed during the crash.
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I'd appreciate some help with this physics problem:

A car is traveling 10 km/hr and crashes into a tree. The driver is thrown 1 m forward. What is his average deceleration?

Here's my work:

Velocity of driver: 10 km/hr = 10,000 m/hr = 250/9 m/s

Time: 1 m / 250/9 m/s = .036 s

So it took him .036 seconds to travel 1 m.

Acceleration = final velocity - initital velocity / time

0 - 250/9 m/s / .036 s = -771.6 m/s

So his average deceleration is 771 m/s ?
 
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Disremember said:
I'd appreciate some help with this physics problem:

A car is traveling 10 km/hr and crashes into a tree. The driver is thrown 1 m forward. What is his average deceleration?

Here's my work:

Velocity of driver: 10 km/hr = 10,000 m/hr = 250/9 m/s
Your answer here is off by a factor of 10.
Time: 1 m / 250/9 m/s = .036 s
Error above carries through.[/quote]

So it took him .036 seconds to travel 1 m.

[/quote] Besides the fact that your answer is still off by a factor of 10, I'm assuming from the way the question is stated, that the driver decelerates during that 1 m, so he will not be traveling at a constant speed over this meter.
Acceleration = final velocity - initital velocity / time

0 - 250/9 m/s / .036 s = -771.6 m/s
compounding your factor of 10 error from above.
So his average deceleration is 771 m/s ?
 
Oh, of course, that was foolish. It's 25/9 m/s and thus .36 s.

Does that mean that the average deceleration is 7.716 ms/s ? Is that correct?

I'm assuming from the way the question is stated, that the driver decelerates during that 1 m, so he will not be traveling at a constant speed over this meter.

So his speed is changing? I have no idea how that affects my answer of 7.71 m/s.
 
Disremember said:
Oh, of course, that was foolish. It's 25/9 m/s and thus .36 s.

Does that mean that the average deceleration is 7.716 ms/s ? Is that correct?



So his speed is changing? I have no idea how that affects my answer of 7.71 m/s.

It means that because he is slowing as he crosses that meter, the time it takes to cross that meter will be longer than what you calculated by assuming he maintained his initial velocity.

If the driver has the initial velocity of the car and a final velocity of zero, what is his average velocity?
 
Car crashes? Drivers flying through the air? AGAIN?!
 
Janus said:
It means that because he is slowing as he crosses that meter, the time it takes to cross that meter will be longer than what you calculated by assuming he maintained his initial velocity.

If the driver has the initial velocity of the car and a final velocity of zero, what is his average velocity?

Well, his average velocity would be half of the inital velocity? So 5 km/hr.

That means 5 km/hr = 5000 m/hr = 25/18 m/s

Time: 1 m / 25/18 m/s = .72 s

So it takes him twice as long.

And -250 m/s / 72 s = -1.929 m/s

A deceleration of 1.929 m/s.

Thanks for your patience.
 
Well, his average velocity would be half of the inital velocity? So 5 km/hr.

That means 5 km/hr = 5000 m/hr = 25/18 m/s

Time: 1 m / 25/18 m/s = .72 s

So it takes him twice as long.
So far, so good
And -250 m/s / 72 s = -1.929 m/s

A deceleration of 1.929 m/s.
remember:

Acceleration = final velocity - initital velocity / time

Also, the acceleration will be in m/sec/sec or m/sec² not m/sec
 
Oh...I used the average velocity for inital velocity (that was a typo by the way, -250 m/s should have been -25/18).

But initial velocity is 10 km/hr, and thus 250/9 m/s ?

Acceleration: 0 - 250/9 m/s / .72 s = 38.58 m/s²

I think I may finally have got it.
 
10 km per hour is quite slow. It's 10000 metres per hour, which is 10000/3600 metres per second, or 2.77m/s. His average velocity was half this and therefore 1.38m/s. He covered a metre, so he was decelerating for 1/1.38s or .72 seconds. And he decelerated from 2.77m/s in .72s so his deceleration was 2.77/.72 or 3.85m/s/s.
 
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Disremember said:
Oh...I used the average velocity for inital velocity (that was a typo by the way, -250 m/s should have been -25/18).

But initial velocity is 10 km/hr, and thus 250/9 m/s ?
Oops, You used the the "too large by factor of ten" value for your initial velocity again.
Acceleration: 0 - 250/9 m/s / .72 s = 38.58 m/s2

I think I may finally have got it.
 
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I can't believe I did that again...OK, it's -25/9 m/s / .72 s = -3.85 m/s² (Farsight's answer).

Thanks so much for helping me.
 
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