Calculating Error: Expression for Mass of Pulley m_P

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The discussion revolves around calculating the error in the mass of a pulley, denoted as m_P, based on the relationship between the masses m1, m2, and the acceleration a in a physics context. The original poster presents an expression for the slope of a graph relating these variables and seeks clarification on the error expression for the pulley mass.

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  • Participants discuss the validity of the original expression for the slope and question the absence of the variable a in the equation. There are attempts to relate the given expressions to known physics equations, and some participants express confusion regarding the setup and its implications for error calculation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the variables, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to calculating the error in the mass of the pulley.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the relationship between the variables and the expressions provided, particularly concerning the role of acceleration a and its expected appearance in the equations. Participants are also considering the implications of their assumptions on the error calculation.

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Homework Statement



The expression for the slope of the graph of [tex](m_{1} - m_{2})[/tex] versus a is given by [tex]m = (m_{1} + m_{2} + m_{p})/g[/tex]. What is the expression for the error in the mass of the pulley, [tex]m_{P}[/tex]?



The Attempt at a Solution



My answer is [tex]\delta_{p} = g\delta_{m} + \delta_{m1} + \delta_{m2}[/tex]

I don't think this is right. Can someone show me where I went wrong?
 
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temaire said:

Homework Statement



The expression for the slope of the graph of [tex](m_{1} - m_{2})[/tex] versus a is given by [tex]m = (m_{1} + m_{2} + m_{p})/g[/tex]. What is the expression for the error in the mass of the pulley, [tex]m_{P}[/tex]?



The Attempt at a Solution



My answer is [tex]\delta_{p} = g\delta_{m} + \delta_{m1} + \delta_{m2}[/tex]

I don't think this is right. Can someone show me where I went wrong?
None of this makes any sense, as far as I can tell. In your first sentence you say
temaire said:
The expression for the slope of the graph of [tex](m_{1} - m_{2})[/tex] versus a is given by [tex]m = (m_{1} + m_{2} + m_{p})/g[/tex].
If you are graphing m1 - m2 vs. a, why doesn't a appear in the equation?
 
I'm not sure if this would help, but [tex](m_{1}-m_{2})g = (m_{1}+m_{2})a[/tex]

I think g might have been substituted for a.
 
Here's where I think this is going. You have m = (1/g)(m1 + m2 + mp), so
[tex]dm = \frac{\partial d m}{\partial m_1}\Delta m_1 + \frac{\partial d m}{\partial m_1}\Delta m_1 +\frac{\partial d m}{\partial m_1}\Delta m_1[/tex]
[tex]= (1/g)[1 \Delta m_1 + 1 \Delta m_2 + \Delta m_p][/tex]

Now solve for [itex]\Delta m_p[/itex] in terms of the other quantities.
 

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