Calculating Flux for a Cylinder in the First Octant: A Parametric Approach

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The discussion revolves around calculating the upward flux of the vector field f(x,y,z) = across a specified surface, which is a portion of a cylinder in the first octant defined by z=4-y^2. The original poster presents a parametrization into the u-v plane and attempts to set up the integral for the flux calculation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral, including the parametrization and the bounds for integration. There are questions about the notation used and the correctness of the integral expression. Some participants seek clarification on the dot product and the simplification steps taken in the calculations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on specific steps in the integration process. There is an acknowledgment of the integral setup, but questions remain regarding notation and the structure of the integrals. No consensus has been reached on the correctness of the approach yet.

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Participants note issues with the display of certain elements in LaTeX, which may affect the clarity of the mathematical expressions being discussed.

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Homework Statement


calculate the upward flux of f(x,y,z) = <yz,2x+y,y^2+z>

Let S be the portion of the cylinder z=4-y^2 lying in the first octant to the right of the plane y=4.
a parametrization into the u v plane is:r(u,v)=(u,v,4-v^2)
region is a rectangle in the uv plane with bounds, (0,0) , (0,2) and (4,0)

Homework Equations


\int\int F \bullet(ru \timesrv) dA

The Attempt at a Solution



ru x rv = 0i + 2vj + 1k

so then i have \int <4v-v^3, 2u+v, v^2 + 4 - v^2 > x <0 + 2v + 1 >

\int (2v^2 + 4uv + 4)dudv
4\int (v^2/2 + uv + 1) dudvi know i can't go to polar so i integrate

is this the correct integral?

0 to 2, outside integral, 4* 0 to 4 inside integral ( v^2/2 + uv + 1 ) dudv ?
 
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CalculusSandwich said:
so then i have \int <4v-v^3, 2u+v, v^2 + 4 - v^2 > x <0 + 2v + 1 >
You're not writing it out properly. It's supposed to be (0 2v 1)^T There isn't any "+".

\int (2v^2 + 4uv + 4)dudv
4\int (v^2/2 + uv + 1) dudv
How did you get v^2 ? And I still don't understand your notation. Why is there 2 separate integrals instead of a single double integral?
 
Defennder said:
You're not writing it out properly. It's supposed to be (0 2v 1)^T There isn't any "+".

How did you get v^2 ? And I still don't understand your notation. Why is there 2 separate integrals instead of a single double integral?

I'm sorry there's not. That's just the next step to solving the integral.

then i take the dot product of <4v-v^3, 2u+v, v^2 + 4 - v^2 > dot <0, 2v,1 >

I get < 0, 4uv + 2v^2, v^2 -v^2 + 4 > which simplifies into 2v^2 + 4uv + 4

so i integrate between...

\int 0 to 2 and \int 0 to 4

integrand of : 2v^2 + 4uv + 4 (dudv)
 
Well ok, I can get that. So what's the problem now?
 
CalculusSandwich said:
I'm sorry there's not. That's just the next step to solving the integral.

then i take the dot product of <4v-v^3, 2u+v, v^2 + 4 - v^2 > dot <0, 2v,1 >

I get < 0, 4uv + 2v^2, v^2 -v^2 + 4 > which simplifies into 2v^2 + 4uv + 4

so i integrate between...

\int 0 to 2 and \int 0 to 4

integrand of : 2v^2 + 4uv + 4 (dudv)
So it is
\int_{v= 0}^2\int_{u= 0}^4 (2v^2+ 4uv+ 4)dudv?

Looks pretty straightforward to me. What is the problem? That can, of course, be separated into
2\int_0^4 du\int_0^2 v^2dv+ 4\int_0^4 udu\int_0^2 vdv+ 4\int_0^4du\int_0^2dv
 
For some reason the "u=0" and "v=0" isn't showing up properly in Latex.
 

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