Calculating Heat Transfer in a Thermal Resistance Circuit

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The discussion revolves around calculating heat transfer in a thermal resistance circuit, specifically focusing on the heat transferred to oxygen and hydrogen streams. Participants are analyzing the problem statement, equations, and their own calculations related to energy balance and heat generation.

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  • Homework-related
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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their approach to finding heat transfer by calculating the temperature at the heat generating interface and expresses confusion about obtaining a temperature lower than the ambient temperature in the oxygen stream.
  • Another participant questions the correctness of the heat generation term, asserting that it should be 3.5X10^5 W/cm^2 rather than 35 W/m^2.
  • A different participant agrees with the previous assertion about the heat generation term and emphasizes the unit conversion from watts/cm^2 to watts/m^2, suggesting that the conversion should yield a larger number.
  • There is a challenge regarding the logic of converting heat generation units, with one participant questioning how a smaller number could result from the conversion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the heat generation term and its conversion between units. There is no consensus on the correctness of the calculations or the implications of the temperature results.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific units and assumptions related to thermal conductivities and heat transfer coefficients, which may influence their calculations. The discussion includes unresolved aspects of the energy balance and the implications of the temperature results.

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Homework Statement



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From this problem statement I am to find the heat transferred to the oxygen stream and the hydrogen stream.

Homework Equations



q''_0 = q''_oxygen + q"_hydrogen

The Attempt at a Solution



I first drew a thermal resistance circuit shown here:

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From that, I did an energy balanced on the whole system:

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I figured I could just calculate the temperature at the heat generating interface, then plug it back into the equations for q''_oxygen and q''_hydrogen, multiply by the area and I'll get the heat transferred in watts. The thing that confused me was when I calculated the temperature at that interface (T1) it ended up being lower than the ambient temperature in the oxygen stream as you can see in the pic. If this is true, that would mean heat would flow the other direction, but the problem statement implies this should not be the case (heat transfer TO not FROM the streams).

Either I'm doing something totally wrong, or there is not enough heat being generated at that interface to cause a heat transfer towards the oxygen stream. Can somebody please help shed some light on this?
 
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Is your heat generation term correct? Your theory is correct. Heat generation is 3.5X10^5 W/cm^2. That is not 35 W/m^2.
 
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LawrenceC said:
Is your heat generation term correct? Your theory is correct. Heat generation is 3.5X10^5 W/cm^2. That is not 35 W/m^2.

I converted 3.5*10^5 w/cm^2 to 35 w/m^2 because all of the thermal conductivities and heat transfer coefficients have the units of meters in them.
 
When you go from watts/cm^2 to watts/m^2, how can you possibly come up with a smaller number?
 
gomerpyle said:

Homework Statement



<< Oversize image deleted by Moderator >>

From this problem statement I am to find the heat transferred to the oxygen stream and the hydrogen stream.

Homework Equations



q''_0 = q''_oxygen + q"_hydrogen

The Attempt at a Solution



I first drew a thermal resistance circuit shown here:

<< Oversize image deleted by Moderator >>

From that, I did an energy balanced on the whole system:

<< Oversize image deleted by Moderator >>

I figured I could just calculate the temperature at the heat generating interface, then plug it back into the equations for q''_oxygen and q''_hydrogen, multiply by the area and I'll get the heat transferred in watts. The thing that confused me was when I calculated the temperature at that interface (T1) it ended up being lower than the ambient temperature in the oxygen stream as you can see in the pic. If this is true, that would mean heat would flow the other direction, but the problem statement implies this should not be the case (heat transfer TO not FROM the streams).

Either I'm doing something totally wrong, or there is not enough heat being generated at that interface to cause a heat transfer towards the oxygen stream. Can somebody please help shed some light on this?

Please take care not to post oversize images that blow up the forum display window. I've had to delete your images to restore the forum display window -- please reply with a re-post of the images, after they have been re-sized small enough to fit in the standard display window. Thanks.
 

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