Calculating Kinetic Energy for Colliding Carts

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The discussion centers on calculating the kinetic energy of two colliding carts, specifically a 2.4 kg dynamics cart moving at 1.5 m/s [W] and a stationary 3.6 kg cart. The velocity of each cart at minimum separation is determined to be 0.6 m/s [W]. The calculations utilize the principle of conservation of momentum, leading to the conclusion that the change in total kinetic energy at minimum separation is 3.24 J, with the expected answer being -1.6 J. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying the kinetic energy formula without simplifying the equations incorrectly.

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A 2.4 kg dynamics cart with a linear elastic spring attached to its front end is moving at 1.5 m/s [W] when it collides head on with a stationary 3.6 kg cart.

What is the velocity of each cart at minimum separation?





The answer is 0.6 m/s [W]

Can anyone show me the steps?
 
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crimsondarkn said:
A 2.4 kg dynamics cart with a linear elastic spring attached to its front end is moving at 1.5 m/s [W] when it collides head on with a stationary 3.6 kg cart.

What is the velocity of each cart at minimum separation?The answer is 0.6 m/s [W]

Can anyone show me the steps?
There is a very easy way to do this. Since there are no external forces, the total momentum the system does not change. What is the speed of the centre of mass? (What is the speed of the observer who sees the two cars colliding with equal and opposite momenta?)

What is the relationship between the speed of the centre of mass and the speeds relative to the centre of mass of the two cars at minimum separation?

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Oh I got it, thanks!

This is what I did..

m1v1+m2v2=m1v'1+m2v'2

m2v2 becomes zero since its stationary

m1v1=v'(m1+m2)

-3.6=v'(6)

v'=-3.6/6

v'= -0.6 m/s ---> 0.6m/s[W]

I didn't know it was completely elastic collision, that's why I was stuck.
 
I'm stuck on part c now...

Calculus the change in total kinetic energy of the system at minimum separation. Here's my work

v'=-0.6m/s

1/2m1v1^2 + 1/2m2v2^2 = 1/2m1v1'^2+1/2m2v2'^2

cross out all the 1/2s and also v2 becomes zero

m1v1^2 = m1v1'^2 + m2v2'^2

(2.4)(-1.5)^2 = (2.4)(0.6)^2 + (3.6)(0.6)^2

5.4 = 0.864 + 1.296

5.4 = 2.16

5.4-2.16 = 3.24 J

And this is where I'm stuck...


The answer at the back is -1.6 J
 
crimsondarkn said:
1/2m1v1^2 + 1/2m2v2^2 = 1/2m1v1'^2+1/2m2v2'^2

cross out all the 1/2s and also v2 becomes zero

m1v1^2 = m1v1'^2 + m2v2'^2

Don't write this as an equation (since they are not equal!) and don't cross anything out. You have the speeds and the masses, so just calculate the initial and final KEs by plugging into the KE formula. Then compare KEi to KEf. (By "final" I mean at the point of minimum separation.)
 

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