Calculating Kinetic Energy of Reaction Products in 13-C (d,n) 14-N Reaction

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total kinetic energy of the products in the nuclear reaction 13-C (d,n) 14-N, given that the incoming deuteron has a kinetic energy of 36.3 MeV. Participants are exploring the implications of conservation of energy and the Q-value in the context of this reaction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of conservation of total energy and the Q-value to relate the kinetic energies before and after the reaction. Questions arise about how to calculate the kinetic energy of the products and the role of velocity in these calculations. Some participants express confusion about the application of E=mc² and the relationship between kinetic energy and mass.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing various approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of conservation of momentum and energy, but there is no explicit consensus on how to proceed with the calculations. Several participants are still seeking clarification on key concepts.

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There is a noted concern about the complexity of the problem in relation to the participants' educational level, specifically for a grade 12 IB physics context. The lack of velocity information is also highlighted as a constraint in the calculations.

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"Calculate the total KE of the products of the reaction

13-C (d,n) 14-N if the incoming deuteron (d) has KE = 36.3 MeV"

I used the Q-value equation which is

Q = KEn + KEN - KEn - KEd

but to find the kinetic energy for each particle, velocity is required (which isn't given in the question)

So, i tried to use E=MC^2 and didn't work out well

to calculate the total KE of the products (KE of neutron and nitrogen)

can't i just use E=MC^2?

please help:confused:

Thanks
 
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One has to use conservation of total energy, i.e the sum of kinetic and rest energies before = sum of kinetic and rest energies after.

The Q value is the difference in rest energy (masses). If Q > 0, the released energy is manifest in the kinetic energy of the products.

If Q < 0, some energy (e.g. kinetic energy of one or both reactants) must be applied.
 
umm okay
so you're saying that i should use KE before = KE after?
but the question is how do i find a kinetic energy of Carbon, neutron and nitrogen?
using E=mc^2?
 
Try KE (after) = KE (before) + Q or

KE(final) = KE(initial) + Q

and one can use classical mechanics for kinetic energy since 36.3 MeV << 1875.6 MeV (rest mass of d).

If one wants to calculate the specific kinetic energy of the particles, then one must apply conservation of momentum (a vector quantity) in both the x and y or longitudinal and transverse directions taken with respect to the incident velocity of the deuteron. A reasonable assumption would be that the beam of deuterons is impinging upon a fixed (solid) target of C.
 
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what I'm asking is, is KE(before) = 36.3 MeV?

KE= 0.5 mv^2, but velocity isn't given in the question
 
i still didn't get it
perhaps this is too complicated question for physics grade 12 IB
but thanks anyway
 
f4d_girl said:
what I'm asking is, is KE(before) = 36.3 MeV?

KE= 0.5 mv^2, but velocity isn't given in the question
You are given the kinetic energy of 36.3 MeV, which is 1/2 mv2.

You could calculate v = sqrt(2KE/m).

Try this page and browse the site - http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nucene/nucbin.html
 
i've never heard of this equation v = sqrt(2KE/m)
but i'll try!
thanks
 

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