Calculating Load Applied to Anchors Holding a Car in River

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the load applied to anchors holding a car stationary in a man-made river channel. Participants explore the effects of water flow, surface area, and buoyancy on the forces acting on the anchors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Tom seeks assistance in calculating the load on anchors due to water flow, indicating a practical approach rather than an academic one.
  • Tom specifies the conditions: a car positioned sideways in water flowing at approximately 15 mph with an estimated surface area of 5 square meters.
  • A participant provides a formula for calculating the maximum possible force on the anchors, using imperial units and specific parameters such as the weight of water, wetted area, and velocity.
  • The calculation results in a maximum force of 51,000 lbs, with a derived pressure of 944 lbs per square foot.
  • Tom acknowledges the complexity of the situation, noting that buoyancy and the weight of the car influence the friction and, consequently, the load on the anchors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the final load calculation due to the complexities introduced by buoyancy and friction, with multiple factors affecting the outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the impact of buoyancy on the load calculations, and there are mixed units being used in the discussion.

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Hi

I am trying to work out the load applied to some anchors used to hold a car stationary in a man made river channel. I know it will be something to do with the surface area and the speed/volume of water. Can anyone help, admittedly I am a practical person not a acaedamic so layman terms please.

Tom
 
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So I have a car side ways on to a flow of water moving around 15mph, I imagine there is around 5 square meters of surface area that the water hits, how much load will be applied to the anchor holding the car in the channel.
 
You have mixed imperial and metric units, but I am going to work in imperial.

The maximum possible force is larger than you might think and is given by

[tex]F = \frac{{wa{v^2}}}{g}[/tex]



F is the force in lbs,
w is the weight of water in lbs per cubic foot = 62.4 lbs per cubic foot
a = wetted area of car = 54 square feet
v is the velocity in feet per second = 22 feet per second
g is the acceleration due to gravity = 32 feet per second per second

F = 62.4*54*22*22/32 = 51,000 lbs

Max pressure would be F/a = 944 lbs per square foot or 6.5 psi or about half an atmosphere.

go well
 
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Thanks

yeah its a complicated situation because buoyancy also affects the car, the heavier the car the more friction it is subjected to on the river channel, reducing the load, thanks for you time

tom
 

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