Calculating magnetic field as a function of magnet size

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on determining the size of a magnet required to achieve a specific magnetic field strength at a certain distance from its surface. It explores the relationship between the physical dimensions of the magnet, its magnetic properties, and the resulting field strength, considering factors such as magnet shape and the decay of the magnetic field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand how the size of an N48 neodymium magnet influences the magnetic field strength at a distance, questioning the role of volume and shape.
  • Another participant clarifies that the formula for the magnetic field of a dipole applies only along the axis and that the field strength decays with the cube of the distance from the dipole.
  • A formula is presented for estimating the magnetic field at a distance from the surface of the magnet, which incorporates the height of the magnet.
  • There is a suggestion to look up "magnetic dipole" for further derivation of the formula provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of magnet volume and shape in determining the magnetic field strength, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the assumptions behind the formula provided or the specific conditions under which it applies, leaving some mathematical steps and dependencies on definitions unresolved.

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I want to determine how large a magnet I need in order to get a given field a certain distance away from the surface.

An N48 neodymium magnet has a Bremanence of ~1.47T. How does the physical size of the magnet affect the field a given distance away?

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=519563 seems to imply it's proportional to the volume. However, I'm unclear on how to apply the equations. I'm also surprised that no mention is given to the shape -- shouldn't a flat, thin magnet have its magnetic field fall off more slowly than a long, deep one?
 
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That formula you refer to is for the field of a magnetic dipole and ONLY on the axis of the dipole. There, d is the distance from the dipole, it has nothing to do with the volume. In other words, the field of a static dipole decays as the reciprocal of the cube of the distance.

As an estimation to your problem, I am assuming that the (manufacturer?) specified field of 1.47 T is specified at the surface of the end of the magnet. Then, as long as you stay on the axis of the magnet, the field at a distance d away from the surface of the magnet is
B(d) = \frac{(\frac{H}{2})^3}{(d+(\frac{H}{2}))^3} \cdot 1.47 [\rm{T}] \; ,
where H is the height of the magnet.
 
Thanks! How did you derive that?
 
No problem; it's just the only way to enforce the d^-3 relation with the field referenced to the surface. Look up "magnetic dipole" for the derivation of the equation from the other thread.
 

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