Calculating Maximum Power of 6 D Flip-Flops

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum power dissipated by 6 D Flip-Flops arranged across 3 integrated circuits (ICs). Participants explore how to use data sheet values for voltage and current to determine power dissipation, considering both individual Flip-Flops and the overall ICs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using Vcc * Icc for each IC to calculate overall power dissipation.
  • Another participant indicates that to find the power absorbed by the Flip-Flops, one should refer to the data sheet for specific voltage and current values.
  • A later reply clarifies that Vcc * Icc gives the power dissipation for the ICs, but notes that Icc max can depend on the loading conditions of the IC.
  • One participant discusses the impact of load resistance on current draw and power dissipation, emphasizing that the power consumed can vary significantly based on the load connected to the Flip-Flop.
  • Another participant mentions looking at Iout @ Vo numbers in the datasheet for calculating power output of a Flip-Flop.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether to calculate power dissipation per Flip-Flop or per IC, and there is no consensus on the best approach to account for loading effects on power calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the dependence of Icc max on both the quiescent current of the IC and its loading, indicating that assumptions about load conditions can significantly affect power calculations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for engineers and students working with digital circuits, particularly those involved in power management and design of integrated circuits.

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Say I needed 6 D Flip-Flops and wanted to calculate the maximum power dissipated by them. I have 2 Flip-Flops on each IC giving a total of 3 ICs.

I'd look in the data books and find Vcc max and Icc max and multiply to find the power...

My Question: would I use Vcc * Icc for every FLIP-FLOP or would I use Vcc * Icc for every IC?
 
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good morning :

i think if u want the over all power disepated on ur 3 ics
ur calculatino would be = Vcc * Icc

if u want the power which is absorbed by flip flops
using the data sheet for it >> u can get it >>
or at least u could find V & I for it

i hope that i helped u
 
yes, thank you bell12.

I needed to know that Vcc * Icc gives you the ICs power dis.
 
I know you said "by" the ics and not "into" the ICs. But if you really meant that you want Vcc max * Icc max then Icc max will depend on both the Iq max of the IC and its loading.

To understand what I mean consider a flip-flop driving high level to a resistor. The current to create a voltage is going to be much different when the resistor is 1ohm compared to 1Mohm. The power this resistor is burning comes from the Vdd pin of your flip-flop. This current is not spent in the IC but it does travel through the IC so the power source and package of the IC needs to be able to deal with that as well.

Side Note:
If the flip-flop is driving a gate you can probably ignore loading power but if you are using one of the ultra low power gates (with Icc=1uA max) then even then it could be a significant extra load depending on your application. i.e. battery shelf life of a product with a really small (low current density) battery.
 
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If you want to calculate the power output of a FF, you would look at the Iout @ Vo numbers in the datasheet.
 

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