Calculating Maximum Range of Projectile Fired at 210 m/s on Horizontal Ground

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The problem involves calculating the maximum range of projectiles fired from a gun at a speed of 210 m/s on horizontal ground, focusing on the physics of projectile motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the suvat equations for projectile motion but expresses uncertainty about the next steps. Some participants suggest considering the time of flight and the relationship between the angle and range, while others question how to handle the two unknowns in the equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different approaches to relate the angle of projection to the maximum range. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric identities and the conditions for maximizing the range, but no consensus has been reached on the specific method to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a discussion about the implications of having two unknowns (the range and the angle) in the equations, which may affect the approach to finding a solution.

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Homework Statement


Shells are fired from a gun at 210 m/s. What is the maximum range of the shells on horizontal ground?


Homework Equations



Suvat equations?

The Attempt at a Solution


x=210cos(theta)t
y=210sin(theta)t - 4.9t^2
Not sure what to do after that.
Help would be appreciated.
 
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Hi pianogirl! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
pianogirl said:
Shells are fired from a gun at 210 m/s. What is the maximum range of the shells on horizontal ground?

x=210cos(theta)t
y=210sin(theta)t - 4.9t^2
Not sure what to do after that.
Help would be appreciated.

Hint: put y = 0. :wink:
 
There is a more direct way to get time IMO than your eqn.

Consider only the ascent phase.

What happens when we reach the peak of flight to component of the velocity?

Doing so will give you an expression where t=(210 Cos(theta))/g

The descent will take exactly as long so the total time is 2t.

Now substitute for this in your above eqn. You should get something times sin(theta)cos(theta)

There is a trig identity: sin (2theta)= 2 sin(theta) cos (theta)

Simplify your eqn using this. By considering what angle sin is at its maximum should be the answer.

EDIT: sorry didn't see your post Tiny-Tim
 
But I still have two unknowns...? The range and the angle... or did I do something wrong?
 
pianogirl said:
But I still have two unknowns...? The range and the angle...

But you have two equations, so that's ok :smile:

EDIT: he he … beat denverdoc again! :biggrin:
 
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Nope you should have two unknowns, but ask yourself what angle will make y maximal?

In other words sin (a) = max at 90 degrees so sin(2a)= max at what angle?
 

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