Calculating Nth Derivative of a Function

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The discussion revolves around finding the nth derivative of polynomial functions, with participants exploring various methods and concepts related to this topic.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of rules for taking derivatives repeatedly and question the need for specific tricks. There is mention of using Cauchy's integral formula in complex analysis as a method for finding nth derivatives. Some participants express confusion about the complexity of polynomials and the process of finding higher derivatives.

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The conversation is active, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants suggest that finding nth derivatives can be straightforward using established rules, while others propose that specific cases may require unique approaches. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion is focused on polynomials with multiple terms and the challenge of deriving a general expression for the nth derivative. There is mention of the falling factorial as a potential tool for understanding the derivatives of polynomials.

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Is there a way to find the nth derivative of a function (at least for polynomials) or does a knew trick need to be madeup for every one?
 
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Don't you just apply the same rules repeatedly when taking derivatives? What tricks are you referring to?
 
There are several tricks when calculating nth derivatives of functions. The more interesting case is in complex analysis when one may make use of Cauchy's integral formula for the nth derivative. Its quite fascinating that the value of the nth derivative of a function within a contour can be found only by evaluating the functions values on the contour. If you are interested in a specific class of functions then we could tell you exactly what is at your disposal.
 
mostly complicated polynomials.
 
I find the very idea that a polynomial could be "complicated" puzzling!

You can differentiate any polynomial by using the power rule. Each derivative is a polynomial of degree one lower than the original so it should become easier to find higher derivatives. Perhaps I am misunderstanding. Other than the power rule you don't need any "tricks".

If by "complicated" you mean written as a product of terms, either go ahead and multiply them out or use the product rule and chain rule.
 
I meant polynomials with more than one term, and I don't just wan't to differentiate them, I wan't to find the nth derivative. For example, the nth derivative of a^n is n! .
 
Ok, if i understand what you are trying to do


then you are asking yourself what is the kth derivative of x^n (a 'general expresion for it')?


Well, think in the falling factorial symbol instead of the simple factorial and you will get the answer.

For a polynomial a0+a1x+a2x^2+...+ajx^j+...+anx^n you just need to apply the correspoinding rule to each term, with the condition than if k>j the kth derivative of that term vanishes.
 
the interesting thing is that I foudn this place because I was trying to see if a formula existed. I have derived a very simple formula for the nth derivative just today. It's quite easy. Write them out for $y=ax^n$, and you'll see a pattern...the rest is easy to formulate. :)
Masoud Zargar
 

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